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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 691485 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200603 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : rmg.vortac |
| State Reference | GA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 35000 |
| Environment | |
| Weather Elements | Rain Turbulence |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller military : 4 controller radar : 20 controller time certified in position1 : 2 |
| ASRS Report | 691485 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : supervisor |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 30000 vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | FAA ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | FAA |
Narrative:
Supervisor combined ultra high to high; although controllers told him it was too early. Then supervisor combined high sectors together although at least 3 controllers told him it was too busy to combine. The controller at gadsden sector; where all sectors had been combined; told the supervisor the sector was about to become overloaded. He requested departure restrs and the supervisor did not acknowledge him. I had to relieve the previous controller and told the supervisor to split the sectors as they were overloaded. I asked for restrs with no response. I told the supervisor I was working under article 65. Told the supervisor too many airplanes to watch. Supervisor added a tanker. Separation was lost several mins later. Due to the overloaded sector; none of the 3 controllers working saw the confliction until almost too late. I turned both aircraft 40 degrees and tried to expedite 1 aircraft and get an altitude report without success. I don't have the call signs because we don't use flight strips any more. I believe one was an air carrier X and one was an air carrier Y. I was never told separation was lost; but I 'heard' the snitch went off.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZTL CTLR EXPERIENCED NEAR LOSS OF SEPARATION AT FL350 WHEN SECTORS WERE BEING COMBINED BY A SUPVR FOR A LATE NIGHT OP.
Narrative: SUPVR COMBINED ULTRA HIGH TO HIGH; ALTHOUGH CTLRS TOLD HIM IT WAS TOO EARLY. THEN SUPVR COMBINED HIGH SECTORS TOGETHER ALTHOUGH AT LEAST 3 CTLRS TOLD HIM IT WAS TOO BUSY TO COMBINE. THE CTLR AT GADSDEN SECTOR; WHERE ALL SECTORS HAD BEEN COMBINED; TOLD THE SUPVR THE SECTOR WAS ABOUT TO BECOME OVERLOADED. HE REQUESTED DEP RESTRS AND THE SUPVR DID NOT ACKNOWLEDGE HIM. I HAD TO RELIEVE THE PREVIOUS CTLR AND TOLD THE SUPVR TO SPLIT THE SECTORS AS THEY WERE OVERLOADED. I ASKED FOR RESTRS WITH NO RESPONSE. I TOLD THE SUPVR I WAS WORKING UNDER ARTICLE 65. TOLD THE SUPVR TOO MANY AIRPLANES TO WATCH. SUPVR ADDED A TANKER. SEPARATION WAS LOST SEVERAL MINS LATER. DUE TO THE OVERLOADED SECTOR; NONE OF THE 3 CTLRS WORKING SAW THE CONFLICTION UNTIL ALMOST TOO LATE. I TURNED BOTH ACFT 40 DEGS AND TRIED TO EXPEDITE 1 ACFT AND GET AN ALT RPT WITHOUT SUCCESS. I DON'T HAVE THE CALL SIGNS BECAUSE WE DON'T USE FLT STRIPS ANY MORE. I BELIEVE ONE WAS AN ACR X AND ONE WAS AN ACR Y. I WAS NEVER TOLD SEPARATION WAS LOST; BUT I 'HEARD' THE SNITCH WENT OFF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.