<< >> NASA ASRS Report 688140, February 2006

B737 flight crew has the improper passenger count for weight and balance. Flight crew has the passenger count recalculated and off-loads 1200 pounds of cargo to compensate.

Attributes
ACN	688140
Time
Date	200602
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : zzz.airport
State Reference	US
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : bos.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B737-300
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : parked
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 24000 flight time type : 23000
ASRS Report	688140
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight attendant : on duty
Events
Anomaly	cabin event other non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Company Cabin Crew Human Performance Aircraft
Primary Problem	Company

Narrative:

The load schedule presented to me showed that our takeoff weight was within 100 pounds of ATOG based on structural landing weight. The load schedule showed that 16 child weights had been taken. In the presences of the operations agent; I asked the flight attendant to take a count of the children on board. I was trying to build a pad greater than 100 pounds before I departed in order to limit excess fuel burn en route. The operations agent; when hearing my request for a recount; volunteered that he may have 'fudged' a bit on the child count. The flight attendant's child count turned up 8 children versus the operations agent's 16. I had 1200 pounds off freight off loaded. This produced a more acceptable aircraft weight. The point must be made that all parameters involving landing must be done correctly. Everything we do with the aircraft comes down to performance; and a significant part of performance is aircraft weight.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B737 FLT CREW HAS THE IMPROPER PAX COUNT FOR WT AND BAL. FLT CREW HAS THE PAX COUNT RECALCULATED AND OFF-LOADS 1200 LBS OF CARGO TO COMPENSATE.

Narrative: THE LOAD SCHEDULE PRESENTED TO ME SHOWED THAT OUR TKOF WT WAS WITHIN 100 LBS OF ATOG BASED ON STRUCTURAL LNDG WT. THE LOAD SCHEDULE SHOWED THAT 16 CHILD WTS HAD BEEN TAKEN. IN THE PRESENCES OF THE OPS AGENT; I ASKED THE FLT ATTENDANT TO TAKE A COUNT OF THE CHILDREN ON BOARD. I WAS TRYING TO BUILD A PAD GREATER THAN 100 LBS BEFORE I DEPARTED IN ORDER TO LIMIT EXCESS FUEL BURN ENRTE. THE OPS AGENT; WHEN HEARING MY REQUEST FOR A RECOUNT; VOLUNTEERED THAT HE MAY HAVE 'FUDGED' A BIT ON THE CHILD COUNT. THE FLT ATTENDANT'S CHILD COUNT TURNED UP 8 CHILDREN VERSUS THE OPS AGENT'S 16. I HAD 1200 LBS OFF FREIGHT OFF LOADED. THIS PRODUCED A MORE ACCEPTABLE ACFT WT. THE POINT MUST BE MADE THAT ALL PARAMETERS INVOLVING LNDG MUST BE DONE CORRECTLY. EVERYTHING WE DO WITH THE ACFT COMES DOWN TO PERFORMANCE; AND A SIGNIFICANT PART OF PERFORMANCE IS ACFT WT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.