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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 671065 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200509 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-500 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | landing : roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 671065 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor Company |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
On final approach; the PNF did not get clearance to land from the tower. I want to express my concern about how uncomfortable I am with the air carrier's reserve system. I think it is unsafe. I am always flying tired; a lot of the time I am just plain fatigued. I am concerned because it is an ongoing problem. When I speak to other crew members who are on reserve they feel the same way I do. There are a lot of little mistakes happening on the line; and if we don't do something about this unsafe reserve system; I'm afraid something worse might happen!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-500 LANDS WITHOUT CLRNC. RPTR STATES REASON IS ONGOING FATIGUE WHICH RESULTS FROM AN OVERLY DEMANDING METHOD OF RESERVE FLT CREW UTILIZATION AT HIS ACR.
Narrative: ON FINAL APCH; THE PNF DID NOT GET CLRNC TO LAND FROM THE TWR. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN ABOUT HOW UNCOMFORTABLE I AM WITH THE ACR'S RESERVE SYSTEM. I THINK IT IS UNSAFE. I AM ALWAYS FLYING TIRED; A LOT OF THE TIME I AM JUST PLAIN FATIGUED. I AM CONCERNED BECAUSE IT IS AN ONGOING PROB. WHEN I SPEAK TO OTHER CREW MEMBERS WHO ARE ON RESERVE THEY FEEL THE SAME WAY I DO. THERE ARE A LOT OF LITTLE MISTAKES HAPPENING ON THE LINE; AND IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS UNSAFE RESERVE SYSTEM; I'M AFRAID SOMETHING WORSE MIGHT HAPPEN!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.