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Following a transatlantic flight to wri totaling more than 8 hours aloft; flight crew of B747-200 are reassigned by company to ferry the aircraft under far part 91 to position it for a subsequent revenue flight.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 664354 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200507 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : wri.airport |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B747-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 664354 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance FAA |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
We had just operated in from ramstein; germany; on a military charter edaf-wri. We had flown 8 hours 15 mins. Company wanted us to part 91 tail end ferry to repos aircraft for a revenue flight. (I believe a part 91 ferry is only for maintenance repos; not revenue). We did so under protest. Flight plan said part 91 and there was no place for the captain to sign. The flight in question changed call signs from air carrier X to xyz and was operated by the same company from wri to kdor.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FOLLOWING A TRANSATLANTIC FLT TO WRI TOTALING MORE THAN 8 HRS ALOFT; FLT CREW OF B747-200 ARE REASSIGNED BY COMPANY TO FERRY THE ACFT UNDER FAR PART 91 TO POS IT FOR A SUBSEQUENT REVENUE FLT.
Narrative: WE HAD JUST OPERATED IN FROM RAMSTEIN; GERMANY; ON A MIL CHARTER EDAF-WRI. WE HAD FLOWN 8 HRS 15 MINS. COMPANY WANTED US TO PART 91 TAIL END FERRY TO REPOS ACFT FOR A REVENUE FLT. (I BELIEVE A PART 91 FERRY IS ONLY FOR MAINT REPOS; NOT REVENUE). WE DID SO UNDER PROTEST. FLT PLAN SAID PART 91 AND THERE WAS NO PLACE FOR THE CAPT TO SIGN. THE FLT IN QUESTION CHANGED CALL SIGNS FROM ACR X TO XYZ AND WAS OPERATED BY THE SAME COMPANY FROM WRI TO KDOR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.