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Pilot of an A319 reports receiving revision to 'final' takeoff weights as they are taxiing into position for takeoff.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 659669 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200506 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : oak.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A319 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 2500 |
| ASRS Report | 659669 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : 4 |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
We received final weight from load planning prior to taxi. As we approached runway; tower inquired whether we will be ready for takeoff. We affirmed the takeoff; and as he was giving us taxi to hold instruction; first officer noticed flashing ACARS message. Normally; we will not query the ACARS message at this point; but he did. It turned out the message was from load planning stating the final weight was no good. We canceled the position and hold clearance and waited for final weight. This is a bad situation as we could have been airborne before receiving the load planning message had it not been the tug delay and first officer quick action. Bottom line is load planning should never send us the final weight if he didn't get the final bag counts from oak ramp. This load planning problem needs to be fixed now.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF AN A319 RPTS RECEIVING REVISION TO 'FINAL' TKOF WTS AS THEY ARE TAXIING INTO POSITION FOR TKOF.
Narrative: WE RECEIVED FINAL WT FROM LOAD PLANNING PRIOR TO TAXI. AS WE APCHED RWY; TWR INQUIRED WHETHER WE WILL BE READY FOR TKOF. WE AFFIRMED THE TKOF; AND AS HE WAS GIVING US TAXI TO HOLD INSTRUCTION; FO NOTICED FLASHING ACARS MESSAGE. NORMALLY; WE WILL NOT QUERY THE ACARS MESSAGE AT THIS POINT; BUT HE DID. IT TURNED OUT THE MESSAGE WAS FROM LOAD PLANNING STATING THE FINAL WT WAS NO GOOD. WE CANCELED THE POSITION AND HOLD CLRNC AND WAITED FOR FINAL WT. THIS IS A BAD SIT AS WE COULD HAVE BEEN AIRBORNE BEFORE RECEIVING THE LOAD PLANNING MESSAGE HAD IT NOT BEEN THE TUG DELAY AND FO QUICK ACTION. BOTTOM LINE IS LOAD PLANNING SHOULD NEVER SEND US THE FINAL WT IF HE DIDN'T GET THE FINAL BAG COUNTS FROM OAK RAMP. THIS LOAD PLANNING PROB NEEDS TO BE FIXED NOW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.