<< >> NASA ASRS Report 659536, May 2005

After incurring a ground delay waiting for final takeoff weight data; flight crew of an A320 get message advising of additional payload added and not reported. Got 'final' weight revision well after takeoff.

Attributes
ACN	659536
Time
Date	200505
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lax.airport
State Reference	CA
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	A320
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 25000 flight time type : 4000
ASRS Report	659536
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other other : 3
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Aircraft Company
Primary Problem	Company

Narrative:

Taxiing out waiting for final weights. We sent a contact to load planning as to where our final weights were. They sent a message back that weights had not been sent. We were blocking the takeoff of other planes; so we were cleared onto the runway and back off again further down the runway. We sent another contact to load planning 15 mins later. They sent final weights. We input these weights; did before takeoff checklists; and departed. About 4 to 5 mins after takeoff; load planning sent an ACARS that they had added more bags after new weights will follow. We sent an ACARS for load planning to report the incident. We also sent an ACARS to dispatch to also report the incident.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AFTER INCURRING A GND DELAY WAITING FOR FINAL TKOF WT DATA; FLT CREW OF AN A320 GET MESSAGE ADVISING OF ADDITIONAL PAYLOAD ADDED AND NOT RPTED. GOT 'FINAL' WT REVISION WELL AFTER TKOF.

Narrative: TAXIING OUT WAITING FOR FINAL WTS. WE SENT A CONTACT TO LOAD PLANNING AS TO WHERE OUR FINAL WTS WERE. THEY SENT A MESSAGE BACK THAT WTS HAD NOT BEEN SENT. WE WERE BLOCKING THE TKOF OF OTHER PLANES; SO WE WERE CLRED ONTO THE RWY AND BACK OFF AGAIN FURTHER DOWN THE RWY. WE SENT ANOTHER CONTACT TO LOAD PLANNING 15 MINS LATER. THEY SENT FINAL WTS. WE INPUT THESE WTS; DID BEFORE TKOF CHKLISTS; AND DEPARTED. ABOUT 4 TO 5 MINS AFTER TKOF; LOAD PLANNING SENT AN ACARS THAT THEY HAD ADDED MORE BAGS AFTER NEW WTS WILL FOLLOW. WE SENT AN ACARS FOR LOAD PLANNING TO RPT THE INCIDENT. WE ALSO SENT AN ACARS TO DISPATCH TO ALSO RPT THE INCIDENT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.