<< >> NASA ASRS Report 659432, May 2005

An air carrier reports ETOPS flight is dispatched in non compliance when loading information is provided to the dispatcher after the aircraft had departed.

Attributes
ACN	659432
Time
Date	200505
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : zzz.airport
State Reference	US
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B777-200
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : pushback
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	other personnel
Qualification	other
ASRS Report	659432
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	other personnel other
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other other : 1
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Company
Primary Problem	Company

Narrative:

2.7 ZFW increase several mins after pushback. No phone call from load planning. I assume extra weight is extra containers. I had added extra fuel in anticipation of this increase so ETOPS critical fuel was protected. It was still an illegal release due to the flight plan not reflecting proper weight on board after pushback. When is this process going to start working correctly and legally?

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN AIR CARRIER RPTS ETOPS FLT IS DISPATCHED IN NON COMPLIANCE WHEN LOADING INFO IS PROVIDED TO THE DISPATCHER AFTER THE ACFT HAD DEPARTED.

Narrative: 2.7 ZFW INCREASE SEVERAL MINS AFTER PUSHBACK. NO PHONE CALL FROM LOAD PLANNING. I ASSUME EXTRA WT IS EXTRA CONTAINERS. I HAD ADDED EXTRA FUEL IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS INCREASE SO ETOPS CRITICAL FUEL WAS PROTECTED. IT WAS STILL AN ILLEGAL RELEASE DUE TO THE FLT PLAN NOT REFLECTING PROPER WT ON BOARD AFTER PUSHBACK. WHEN IS THIS PROCESS GOING TO START WORKING CORRECTLY AND LEGALLY?

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.