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P31 expressed concern regarding air carrier's refusal to conduct GPS; NDB; ASR approach procedures to pns.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 650821 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200503 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : pns.airport |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Marginal |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : p31.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 17 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument precision arrival : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 17 |
| ASRS Report | 650821 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport Company Environmental Factor FAA |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
I had an E145 inbound to pns. The wind was from the north at 13 KTS. We were advertising GPS runway 35 approach. Aircraft said they were unable to do a GPS; NDB or ASR and would require an ILS runway 17 circle runway 35. Npa was on runway 25; and their final was very busy making the circle to runway 35 difficult. Pns should have an ILS on both runway 17 and runway 35 to remedy this situation if air carrier's can't shoot GPS or NDB's. The aircraft is GPS equipped. Air carrier X will not allow their pilots to do GPS approachs.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: P31 EXPRESSED CONCERN REGARDING ACR'S REFUSAL TO CONDUCT GPS; NDB; ASR APCH PROCS TO PNS.
Narrative: I HAD AN E145 INBOUND TO PNS. THE WIND WAS FROM THE N AT 13 KTS. WE WERE ADVERTISING GPS RWY 35 APCH. ACFT SAID THEY WERE UNABLE TO DO A GPS; NDB OR ASR AND WOULD REQUIRE AN ILS RWY 17 CIRCLE RWY 35. NPA WAS ON RWY 25; AND THEIR FINAL WAS VERY BUSY MAKING THE CIRCLE TO RWY 35 DIFFICULT. PNS SHOULD HAVE AN ILS ON BOTH RWY 17 AND RWY 35 TO REMEDY THIS SIT IF ACR'S CAN'T SHOOT GPS OR NDB'S. THE ACFT IS GPS EQUIPPED. ACR X WILL NOT ALLOW THEIR PLTS TO DO GPS APCHS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.