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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 649850 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200503 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : zfw.artcc |
| State Reference | TX |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| ASRS Report | 649850 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : provided flight assist other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
Flight fueled and departed normally. After stabilizing in cruise flight; FMS indicated landing with less than bingo fuel. Set maximum range cruise; notified ATC. When closer to dfw; ZFW asked us to 'verify minimum fuel.' our requests for shortcuts and the cruise setting had brought us up to bingo fuel (reserve plus alternate) and I confirmed minimum fuel. I have noticed that many dispatchers supply us with adequate fuel for flts with no room for vectors; being held down or other problems. The higher passenger weights has brought in a problem of trying to maximize passenger against a conservative fuel plan.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR CREW DECLARED MINIMUM FUEL INTO DFW WHEN THE FMS DISPLAYED MINIMUM LNDG FUEL; AN AMOUNT BELOW DISPATCH ESTIMATED ARR FUEL.
Narrative: FLT FUELED AND DEPARTED NORMALLY. AFTER STABILIZING IN CRUISE FLT; FMS INDICATED LNDG WITH LESS THAN BINGO FUEL. SET MAX RANGE CRUISE; NOTIFIED ATC. WHEN CLOSER TO DFW; ZFW ASKED US TO 'VERIFY MINIMUM FUEL.' OUR REQUESTS FOR SHORTCUTS AND THE CRUISE SETTING HAD BROUGHT US UP TO BINGO FUEL (RESERVE PLUS ALTERNATE) AND I CONFIRMED MINIMUM FUEL. I HAVE NOTICED THAT MANY DISPATCHERS SUPPLY US WITH ADEQUATE FUEL FOR FLTS WITH NO ROOM FOR VECTORS; BEING HELD DOWN OR OTHER PROBS. THE HIGHER PAX WTS HAS BROUGHT IN A PROB OF TRYING TO MAXIMIZE PAX AGAINST A CONSERVATIVE FUEL PLAN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.