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Instructor and student pilots in C172 experience near midair collision with another C172 while practicing holding patterns at lfd VOR.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 646310 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200502 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : lfd.vor |
| State Reference | MI |
| Altitude | msl single value : 3500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level cruise : holding |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 81.3 flight time total : 475 flight time type : 430 |
| ASRS Report | 646310 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While my student and I were holding at the lfd VOR (southern 180 degree radial left turns); we encountered an near midair collision. After crossing the VOR; the student began a turn to the left for the outbound leg. While turning through a heading of approximately 300 degrees to 240 degrees; I noticed a white and blue cessna at the same altitude converging head-on. I grabbed the controls and quickly banked right to approximately 30-40 degrees. The other aircraft passed just to our left at approximately 100 ft. I could clearly see the pilot of the other plane; therefore; I know we were very close. If we would have continued our left turn; I believe we would have collided. Causes: my attention was divided between teaching the lesson and scanning for traffic. The high wing aircraft blocks your vision in the direction of the turns due to the lowered wing. Also; I was holding at a VOR that has numerous airways to it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT PLTS IN C172 EXPERIENCE NMAC WITH ANOTHER C172 WHILE PRACTICING HOLDING PATTERNS AT LFD VOR.
Narrative: WHILE MY STUDENT AND I WERE HOLDING AT THE LFD VOR (SOUTHERN 180 DEG RADIAL L TURNS); WE ENCOUNTERED AN NMAC. AFTER XING THE VOR; THE STUDENT BEGAN A TURN TO THE LEFT FOR THE OUTBOUND LEG. WHILE TURNING THROUGH A HDG OF APPROX 300 DEGS TO 240 DEGS; I NOTICED A WHITE AND BLUE CESSNA AT THE SAME ALT CONVERGING HEAD-ON. I GRABBED THE CTLS AND QUICKLY BANKED R TO APPROX 30-40 DEGS. THE OTHER ACFT PASSED JUST TO OUR L AT APPROX 100 FT. I COULD CLRLY SEE THE PLT OF THE OTHER PLANE; THEREFORE; I KNOW WE WERE VERY CLOSE. IF WE WOULD HAVE CONTINUED OUR L TURN; I BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE COLLIDED. CAUSES: MY ATTN WAS DIVIDED BTWN TEACHING THE LESSON AND SCANNING FOR TFC. THE HIGH WING ACFT BLOCKS YOUR VISION IN THE DIRECTION OF THE TURNS DUE TO THE LOWERED WING. ALSO; I WAS HOLDING AT A VOR THAT HAS NUMEROUS AIRWAYS TO IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.