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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 638823 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200411 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : ape.vortac |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | msl single value : 24000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc tower : vny.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER&LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A310 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 16 controller time certified in position1 : 16 controller time certified in position2 : 10 |
| ASRS Report | 638823 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 23400 vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
I was controller in charge of the area. One of our sectors had an error between these 2 aircraft while I was on duty. I did not know the error occurred until I received a phone call from supervisor about the act involved. I questioned the controllers and then had them relieved from position for further investigation. It was later deemed an operational error. A controller in charge is basically an fpl controller certified to watch the area as a supervisor does without supervisory authority/authorized or pay. I was unsure whether or not to file this since I was not directly involved. However, as only a controller, I decided to submit this to you.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CIC AT ZID DESCRIBES OPERROR THAT OCCURRED DURING HIS OR HER ASSIGNED SHIFT, HOWEVER, THE ERROR WAS NOT NOTED UNTIL LATER ON.
Narrative: I WAS CIC OF THE AREA. ONE OF OUR SECTORS HAD AN ERROR BTWN THESE 2 ACFT WHILE I WAS ON DUTY. I DID NOT KNOW THE ERROR OCCURRED UNTIL I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM SUPVR ABOUT THE ACT INVOLVED. I QUESTIONED THE CTLRS AND THEN HAD THEM RELIEVED FROM POS FOR FURTHER INVESTIGATION. IT WAS LATER DEEMED AN OPERROR. A CIC IS BASICALLY AN FPL CTLR CERTIFIED TO WATCH THE AREA AS A SUPVR DOES WITHOUT SUPERVISORY AUTH OR PAY. I WAS UNSURE WHETHER OR NOT TO FILE THIS SINCE I WAS NOT DIRECTLY INVOLVED. HOWEVER, AS ONLY A CTLR, I DECIDED TO SUBMIT THIS TO YOU.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.