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EMB145 taxiing for departure at lga crossed ILS hold line requiring go around with aircraft on final.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 634817 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200410 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lga.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lga.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 15400 flight time type : 780 |
| ASRS Report | 634817 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : separated traffic controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory flight crew : executed go around |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After completing our pushback from the gate (in lga) we were instructed by lga ground control to follow a DASH8 that was several txwys ahead of us. We said, we had it in sight and could follow the dash 8 to runway 4. As we approached the runway the DASH8 moved up to the B4 hold short line. The DASH8 was then cleared for takeoff. We then moved up, however, after our aircraft's nose crossed the ILS hold short line before the B4 hold line (ATC tower) said,
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMB145 TAXIING FOR DEP AT LGA CROSSED ILS HOLD LINE REQUIRING GAR WITH ACFT ON FINAL.
Narrative: AFTER COMPLETING OUR PUSHBACK FROM THE GATE (IN LGA) WE WERE INSTRUCTED BY LGA GND CTL TO FOLLOW A DASH8 THAT WAS SEVERAL TXWYS AHEAD OF US. WE SAID, WE HAD IT IN SIGHT AND COULD FOLLOW THE DASH 8 TO RWY 4. AS WE APCHED THE RWY THE DASH8 MOVED UP TO THE B4 HOLD SHORT LINE. THE DASH8 WAS THEN CLRED FOR TKOF. WE THEN MOVED UP, HOWEVER, AFTER OUR ACFT'S NOSE CROSSED THE ILS HOLD SHORT LINE BEFORE THE B4 HOLD LINE (ATC TWR) SAID,
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.