An emj experienced engine #1 itt exceedence after engine start using ground pneumatic air.

Attributes
ACN	628523
Time
Date	200408
Day	Sat
Place
Locale Reference	airport : zzz.airport
State Reference	US
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : bhm.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Embraer Jet Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : parked
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
ASRS Report	628523
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
ASRS Report	628511
Events
Anomaly	aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other other : eicas
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Aircraft
Primary Problem	Aircraft

Narrative:

The APU was inoperative. Both engines had been started using an external air compressor -- not the bottle. I was looking down when I heard the master warning. When I looked up there was a red 'E1 attcs' no margin message and the #1 engine itt was around 970 degrees C. The captain shut down the engine. At the time this occurred, the thrust on both engines was idle and both engine bleeds were closed and the packs were off. As it was getting stuffy in the cabin, I opened the good (#2) bleed, the xbleed and turned on the packs to provide ventilation while we talked to dispatch and maintenance center. At this time, we noticed a burning smell in the cabin and cockpit. I turned the bleed and packs and the recirculation fan off. The flight was then cancelled and we deplaned after performing the parking and leaving aircraft checklists.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN EMJ EXPERIENCED ENG #1 ITT EXCEEDENCE AFTER ENG START USING GND PNEUMATIC AIR.

Narrative: THE APU WAS INOP. BOTH ENGS HAD BEEN STARTED USING AN EXTERNAL AIR COMPRESSOR -- NOT THE BOTTLE. I WAS LOOKING DOWN WHEN I HEARD THE MASTER WARNING. WHEN I LOOKED UP THERE WAS A RED 'E1 ATTCS' NO MARGIN MESSAGE AND THE #1 ENG ITT WAS AROUND 970 DEGS C. THE CAPT SHUT DOWN THE ENG. AT THE TIME THIS OCCURRED, THE THRUST ON BOTH ENGS WAS IDLE AND BOTH ENG BLEEDS WERE CLOSED AND THE PACKS WERE OFF. AS IT WAS GETTING STUFFY IN THE CABIN, I OPENED THE GOOD (#2) BLEED, THE XBLEED AND TURNED ON THE PACKS TO PROVIDE VENTILATION WHILE WE TALKED TO DISPATCH AND MAINT CTR. AT THIS TIME, WE NOTICED A BURNING SMELL IN THE CABIN AND COCKPIT. I TURNED THE BLEED AND PACKS AND THE RECIRCULATION FAN OFF. THE FLT WAS THEN CANCELLED AND WE DEPLANED AFTER PERFORMING THE PARKING AND LEAVING ACFT CHKLISTS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.