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Alleged class B incursion when a departing C525 PIC reports that the tower controller read his altitude as 2000 ft versus the 1500 ft he alleges he had on his altimeter leaving teb, nj.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 620705 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200406 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 2000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon tower : teb.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Citationjet, C525/C526 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Route In Use | arrival other departure other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 29000 flight time type : 400 |
| ASRS Report | 620705 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : mode c radar other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Aircraft ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After takeoff at teb, I was departing the airspace and under the ewr class B airspace in VFR conditions at 1500 ft indicated altitude. Teb tower called and said 'I told you to remain out of the class B airspace and you are at 2000 ft.' we reported back that we were at 1500 ft. Teb tower then switched me to new york departure control, which I did and reported in at 1500 ft. New york departure then proceeded to offer vectors and an eventual climb to a higher altitude. I did not violate the ewr class B airspace and when teb reported me at 2000 ft, I was level at 1500 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALLEGED CLASS B INCURSION WHEN A DEPARTING C525 PIC RPTS THAT THE TWR CTLR READ HIS ALT AS 2000 FT VERSUS THE 1500 FT HE ALLEGES HE HAD ON HIS ALTIMETER LEAVING TEB, NJ.
Narrative: AFTER TKOF AT TEB, I WAS DEPARTING THE AIRSPACE AND UNDER THE EWR CLASS B AIRSPACE IN VFR CONDITIONS AT 1500 FT INDICATED ALT. TEB TWR CALLED AND SAID 'I TOLD YOU TO REMAIN OUT OF THE CLASS B AIRSPACE AND YOU ARE AT 2000 FT.' WE RPTED BACK THAT WE WERE AT 1500 FT. TEB TWR THEN SWITCHED ME TO NEW YORK DEP CTL, WHICH I DID AND RPTED IN AT 1500 FT. NEW YORK DEP THEN PROCEEDED TO OFFER VECTORS AND AN EVENTUAL CLB TO A HIGHER ALT. I DID NOT VIOLATE THE EWR CLASS B AIRSPACE AND WHEN TEB RPTED ME AT 2000 FT, I WAS LEVEL AT 1500 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.