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PIC of a taxiing, holding B757-200 had crossed over the first set of solid hold lines, holding at the second set of dashed lines.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 620428 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200406 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mia.airport |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 5000 |
| ASRS Report | 620428 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport Chart Or Publication ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
There are 2 hold lines for runway 8R at mia. We interpreted the first hold line to be an IFR hold line and taxied to the second hold line. Tower informed us we should have held at the first hold line. There is no sign at mia advising all flts to hold at the first line. No runway incursion incurred and there is no obvious reason why the first hold line is important, but apparently it is to mia controllers. Suggest airport chart note and improve signage to prevent other crews from making this mistake.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PIC OF A TAXIING, HOLDING B757-200 HAD CROSSED OVER THE FIRST SET OF SOLID HOLD LINES, HOLDING AT THE SECOND SET OF DASHED LINES.
Narrative: THERE ARE 2 HOLD LINES FOR RWY 8R AT MIA. WE INTERPED THE FIRST HOLD LINE TO BE AN IFR HOLD LINE AND TAXIED TO THE SECOND HOLD LINE. TWR INFORMED US WE SHOULD HAVE HELD AT THE FIRST HOLD LINE. THERE IS NO SIGN AT MIA ADVISING ALL FLTS TO HOLD AT THE FIRST LINE. NO RWY INCURSION INCURRED AND THERE IS NO OBVIOUS REASON WHY THE FIRST HOLD LINE IS IMPORTANT, BUT APPARENTLY IT IS TO MIA CTLRS. SUGGEST ARPT CHART NOTE AND IMPROVE SIGNAGE TO PREVENT OTHER CREWS FROM MAKING THIS MISTAKE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.