Carj flight crew enters incorrect holding pattern on tarne ar at cvg.

Attributes
ACN	619276
Time
Date	200406
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	navaid : cvg.vortac
State Reference	OH
Altitude	msl single value : 8000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : cvg.tracon
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Regional Jet 200 ER&LR
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	other vortac
Flight Phase	descent : approach descent : holding descent : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	arrival star : tarne
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 3000
ASRS Report	619276
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Events
Anomaly	inflight encounter : weather non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued advisory flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to original clearance
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance Chart Or Publication ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

We were on the tarne 3 arrival into cvg. At about tarne intersection, the controller advised us that there was a thunderstorm over cvg and other aircraft were refusing the approach. He told us to expect holding at milan intersection. We acknowledged and set up for a hold at milan. After we had passed milan by about 3 SM, the controller issued a clearance to hold southeast of milan on the inbound course. This, of course, caused some confusion as to what the controller intended us to. What the controller intended us to do, the first officer interpreted to mean a hold on the inbound course northwest of milan, and I disagreed. I asked him to call for clarification. Meanwhile, we began a left turn back towards milan. Again, the controller told us to hold southeast on the inbound course to milan. I was still convinced that the course was supposed to be southeast of the fix, while the first officer continued to insist it was northwest of the fix. I asked him to radio atl for vectors until we could settle our dispute. Instead, he insisted his course was correct. We were over the fix and busy. At this time, I allowed him to talk me into something that I did not think was right. We turned outbound on the 310 degree radial intending on making a parallel entry to a holding pattern northwest of milan. We went out about 2 mi when the controller asked if we had turned inbound yet. The first officer replied that we were outbound in the hold on the 310 degree radial inbound. The controller issued an immediate turn back to milan to hold southeast as cleared. We complied and held as instructed.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CARJ FLT CREW ENTERS INCORRECT HOLDING PATTERN ON TARNE AR AT CVG.

Narrative: WE WERE ON THE TARNE 3 ARR INTO CVG. AT ABOUT TARNE INTXN, THE CTLR ADVISED US THAT THERE WAS A TSTM OVER CVG AND OTHER ACFT WERE REFUSING THE APCH. HE TOLD US TO EXPECT HOLDING AT MILAN INTXN. WE ACKNOWLEDGED AND SET UP FOR A HOLD AT MILAN. AFTER WE HAD PASSED MILAN BY ABOUT 3 SM, THE CTLR ISSUED A CLRNC TO HOLD SE OF MILAN ON THE INBOUND COURSE. THIS, OF COURSE, CAUSED SOME CONFUSION AS TO WHAT THE CTLR INTENDED US TO. WHAT THE CTLR INTENDED US TO DO, THE FO INTERPED TO MEAN A HOLD ON THE INBOUND COURSE NW OF MILAN, AND I DISAGREED. I ASKED HIM TO CALL FOR CLARIFICATION. MEANWHILE, WE BEGAN A L TURN BACK TOWARDS MILAN. AGAIN, THE CTLR TOLD US TO HOLD SE ON THE INBOUND COURSE TO MILAN. I WAS STILL CONVINCED THAT THE COURSE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SE OF THE FIX, WHILE THE FO CONTINUED TO INSIST IT WAS NW OF THE FIX. I ASKED HIM TO RADIO ATL FOR VECTORS UNTIL WE COULD SETTLE OUR DISPUTE. INSTEAD, HE INSISTED HIS COURSE WAS CORRECT. WE WERE OVER THE FIX AND BUSY. AT THIS TIME, I ALLOWED HIM TO TALK ME INTO SOMETHING THAT I DID NOT THINK WAS RIGHT. WE TURNED OUTBOUND ON THE 310 DEG RADIAL INTENDING ON MAKING A PARALLEL ENTRY TO A HOLDING PATTERN NW OF MILAN. WE WENT OUT ABOUT 2 MI WHEN THE CTLR ASKED IF WE HAD TURNED INBOUND YET. THE FO REPLIED THAT WE WERE OUTBOUND IN THE HOLD ON THE 310 DEG RADIAL INBOUND. THE CTLR ISSUED AN IMMEDIATE TURN BACK TO MILAN TO HOLD SE AS CLRED. WE COMPLIED AND HELD AS INSTRUCTED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.