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Phl approach controller monitoring developmental controller is late reacting to questionable vector and experienced near loss of separation.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 618427 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200405 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : phl.airport |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 8000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl.tracon tower : phl.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl.tracon tower : phl.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller limited radar : 17 controller radar : 7 |
| ASRS Report | 618427 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar instruction : trainee |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 300 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was training a low time developmental, vectoring the carj during a busy session. Carj rejected a runway assignment they had initially accepted and ended up on a very non standard vector. While on this vector, the carj came into potential conflict with a DH8 climbing off phl. The DH8 was being vectored by a different controller. Both controllers issued vectors to provide separation and I took over the frequency from the developmental. In hindsight, training during this busy a session may not have been a good idea. Also, better vigilance on my part, of a low time developmental could have prevented this close call.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PHL APCH CTLR MONITORING DEVELOPMENTAL CTLR IS LATE REACTING TO QUESTIONABLE VECTOR AND EXPERIENCED NEAR LOSS OF SEPARATION.
Narrative: I WAS TRAINING A LOW TIME DEVELOPMENTAL, VECTORING THE CARJ DURING A BUSY SESSION. CARJ REJECTED A RWY ASSIGNMENT THEY HAD INITIALLY ACCEPTED AND ENDED UP ON A VERY NON STANDARD VECTOR. WHILE ON THIS VECTOR, THE CARJ CAME INTO POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH A DH8 CLBING OFF PHL. THE DH8 WAS BEING VECTORED BY A DIFFERENT CTLR. BOTH CTLRS ISSUED VECTORS TO PROVIDE SEPARATION AND I TOOK OVER THE FREQ FROM THE DEVELOPMENTAL. IN HINDSIGHT, TRAINING DURING THIS BUSY A SESSION MAY NOT HAVE BEEN A GOOD IDEA. ALSO, BETTER VIGILANCE ON MY PART, OF A LOW TIME DEVELOPMENTAL COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS CLOSE CALL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.