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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 618385 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200405 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : ont |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 3300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon tower : ont.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-46 Malibu |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 26l |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon tower : ont.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 26l |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : radar pilot : private pilot : instrument |
| Experience | controller non radar : 7 controller radar : 2.5 flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 618385 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 30000 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Weather |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Aircraft X established on the ILS runway 26L. Sct approach control asked to have aircraft X either speed up or start miss procedures for faster aircraft behind, air carrier Y. Aircraft X said, due to fuel concerns, he was unable 'to spin' for the traffic. I immediately cleared aircraft X to land on runway 26L and advised sct that aircraft X was unable the go around, that air carrier Y would have to be broken out. Too often, we as ATC, forget that 7110.65 states aircraft are handled on a first come first served basis. Air carrier Y should have been slowed or turned long before a 12 mi where he was going 170 KTS faster than the PA46 5 mi ahead.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ONT TWR CTLR EXPRESSED FRUSTRATION WITH SPACING TECHNIQUES PROVIDED BY SCT APCH CTLR WHEN A PA46 WAS ASKED BY SCT TO BE PULLED OFF THE FINAL AT ONT FOR A FASTER ACR.
Narrative: ACFT X ESTABLISHED ON THE ILS RWY 26L. SCT APCH CTL ASKED TO HAVE ACFT X EITHER SPD UP OR START MISS PROCS FOR FASTER ACFT BEHIND, ACR Y. ACFT X SAID, DUE TO FUEL CONCERNS, HE WAS UNABLE 'TO SPIN' FOR THE TFC. I IMMEDIATELY CLRED ACFT X TO LAND ON RWY 26L AND ADVISED SCT THAT ACFT X WAS UNABLE THE GAR, THAT ACR Y WOULD HAVE TO BE BROKEN OUT. TOO OFTEN, WE AS ATC, FORGET THAT 7110.65 STATES ACFT ARE HANDLED ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVED BASIS. ACR Y SHOULD HAVE BEEN SLOWED OR TURNED LONG BEFORE A 12 MI WHERE HE WAS GOING 170 KTS FASTER THAN THE PA46 5 MI AHEAD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.