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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 617671 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200405 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cle.airport |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 2500 |
| ASRS Report | 617671 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : taxiway non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airport Flight Crew Human Performance Chart Or Publication |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Airport | markings : cle.airport |
| Chart | airport : cle.airport |
Narrative:
After push from gate, ramp control instructed us to proceed to spot X and contact ground control. Our gates have been moved to a different location at cleveland. This was our first operation off of this gate. We checked the 10-9A page for the location of spot X. It shows spot X on taxiway J north of taxiway a. As we proceeded out to taxiway J where we thought the spot was, I noticed ground paint indicating spot X was right next to the terminal inside the hold lines. The captain turned the aircraft toward the spot X and had me immediately call ground. Ground control responded that we needed to contact them before we taxied on taxiway J. Also, if we have a question of the location, we should have ramp control direct us to the spot. I think that since this was an unfamiliar operation, it led to some confusion. But more so, the chart of the taxi spot X at cleveland is misleading and the primary cause of us proceeding on taxiway J. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter acknowledged that their unfamiliarity with a new gate location was a factor in late hold spot identify. Reporter alleges that hold spot X is closer to the intersection of txwys a and J than the commercial chart depicts.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EARLY MORNING ACTIVITY AND UNFAMILIARITY WITH SPOT Z TAXI CLRNC BY CLE GND CTLR RESULTS IN A TXWY J INCURSION.
Narrative: AFTER PUSH FROM GATE, RAMP CTL INSTRUCTED US TO PROCEED TO SPOT X AND CONTACT GND CTL. OUR GATES HAVE BEEN MOVED TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION AT CLEVELAND. THIS WAS OUR FIRST OP OFF OF THIS GATE. WE CHKED THE 10-9A PAGE FOR THE LOCATION OF SPOT X. IT SHOWS SPOT X ON TXWY J N OF TXWY A. AS WE PROCEEDED OUT TO TXWY J WHERE WE THOUGHT THE SPOT WAS, I NOTICED GND PAINT INDICATING SPOT X WAS RIGHT NEXT TO THE TERMINAL INSIDE THE HOLD LINES. THE CAPT TURNED THE ACFT TOWARD THE SPOT X AND HAD ME IMMEDIATELY CALL GND. GND CTL RESPONDED THAT WE NEEDED TO CONTACT THEM BEFORE WE TAXIED ON TXWY J. ALSO, IF WE HAVE A QUESTION OF THE LOCATION, WE SHOULD HAVE RAMP CTL DIRECT US TO THE SPOT. I THINK THAT SINCE THIS WAS AN UNFAMILIAR OP, IT LED TO SOME CONFUSION. BUT MORE SO, THE CHART OF THE TAXI SPOT X AT CLEVELAND IS MISLEADING AND THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF US PROCEEDING ON TXWY J. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEIR UNFAMILIARITY WITH A NEW GATE LOCATION WAS A FACTOR IN LATE HOLD SPOT IDENT. RPTR ALLEGES THAT HOLD SPOT X IS CLOSER TO THE INTXN OF TXWYS A AND J THAN THE COMMERCIAL CHART DEPICTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.