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ZNY controller is concerned with possible airspace violation during equipment failure(south) when directed by his supervisor to authority/authorized entry into lppo airspace.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 611110 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200403 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : zny.artcc |
| State Reference | NY |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc artcc : lppo.artcc tower : phl.tower |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Route In Use | enroute : atlantic |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : non radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller non radar : 17 controller radar : 14 |
| ASRS Report | 611110 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : non radar controller : handoff position |
| Qualification | controller : developmental |
| Experience | controller non radar : 1.5 flight time total : 240 |
| ASRS Report | 611132 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other controllerb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance ATC Facility Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | ATC Facility |
| Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
About XA00, santa maria control center (acc) advised us that they experienced total system failure. It seems they have no backup capacity. We were unable to get approval for flts to enter their airspace for 3+ hours. We were passing the information to the acc's beyond lpaz. It is not feasible to rerte or hold at the middle of the atlantic ocean. We were advised by our supervisor and santa maria to keep aircraft coming, despite lack of approvals or acknowledgement of receipt of flight data. To my knowledge, we did not lose separation with any aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZNY CTLR IS CONCERNED WITH POSSIBLE AIRSPACE VIOLATION DURING EQUIP FAILURE(S) WHEN DIRECTED BY HIS SUPVR TO AUTH ENTRY INTO LPPO AIRSPACE.
Narrative: ABOUT XA00, SANTA MARIA CTL CTR (ACC) ADVISED US THAT THEY EXPERIENCED TOTAL SYS FAILURE. IT SEEMS THEY HAVE NO BACKUP CAPACITY. WE WERE UNABLE TO GET APPROVAL FOR FLTS TO ENTER THEIR AIRSPACE FOR 3+ HRS. WE WERE PASSING THE INFO TO THE ACC'S BEYOND LPAZ. IT IS NOT FEASIBLE TO RERTE OR HOLD AT THE MIDDLE OF THE ATLANTIC OCEAN. WE WERE ADVISED BY OUR SUPVR AND SANTA MARIA TO KEEP ACFT COMING, DESPITE LACK OF APPROVALS OR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF RECEIPT OF FLT DATA. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE DID NOT LOSE SEPARATION WITH ANY ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.