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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 610440 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200402 |
| Day | Sun |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lfpg.airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lfpg.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : position and hold |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lfpg.tower |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : relief pilot |
| ASRS Report | 610440 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Flying the relief pilot position. I heard the controller for us say position and hold. On the runway 9R, next transmission from the controller is do you have a problem, aircraft OM 2 mi final. I never heard the takeoff clearance. We then departed, but I think she was upset with us. We did receive a takeoff clearance after the 2 aircraft on 2 mi final. Possible communications problem with paris tower.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767 DEP FROM PARIS IS UNCERTAIN REGARDING TKOF CLRNC.
Narrative: FLYING THE RELIEF PLT POS. I HEARD THE CTLR FOR US SAY POS AND HOLD. ON THE RWY 9R, NEXT XMISSION FROM THE CTLR IS DO YOU HAVE A PROB, ACFT OM 2 MI FINAL. I NEVER HEARD THE TKOF CLRNC. WE THEN DEPARTED, BUT I THINK SHE WAS UPSET WITH US. WE DID RECEIVE A TKOF CLRNC AFTER THE 2 ACFT ON 2 MI FINAL. POSSIBLE COMS PROB WITH PARIS TWR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.