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LJ60 flight crew at altitude plan for a direct routing xferring from ZLA to ZDV. After frequency change, they 'promptly forget' and aren't challenged until observed by ZID airspace when off flight plan filed route.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 607446 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200402 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : zid.artcc |
| State Reference | IN |
| Altitude | msl single value : 41000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Learjet 60 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 85 flight time total : 7200 flight time type : 1100 |
| ASRS Report | 607446 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance flight crew : became reoriented |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flight was from sba to hpn. Shortly before reaching the las VOR, center cleared us 'direct hpn.' as we fly the route on a regular basis, we had loaded the hpn arrival prior to departure. The arrival fix for hpn is dny, just north of hpn. As ZLA was quite busy, I told the PF I would get an amended clearance from the next controller (which is denver), as they usually are not as busy. Of course, we then promptly forgot! Approximately 2-3 hours later, center asked where we were going, as they showed us off course. I immediately explained what happened and requested direct dny. The corrective action is to 'fly your clearance' -- not what you anticipate you will be cleared, even if they are 200 mi away!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LJ60 FLT CREW AT ALT PLAN FOR A DIRECT ROUTING XFERRING FROM ZLA TO ZDV. AFTER FREQ CHANGE, THEY 'PROMPTLY FORGET' AND AREN'T CHALLENGED UNTIL OBSERVED BY ZID AIRSPACE WHEN OFF FLT PLAN FILED RTE.
Narrative: FLT WAS FROM SBA TO HPN. SHORTLY BEFORE REACHING THE LAS VOR, CTR CLRED US 'DIRECT HPN.' AS WE FLY THE RTE ON A REGULAR BASIS, WE HAD LOADED THE HPN ARR PRIOR TO DEP. THE ARR FIX FOR HPN IS DNY, JUST N OF HPN. AS ZLA WAS QUITE BUSY, I TOLD THE PF I WOULD GET AN AMENDED CLRNC FROM THE NEXT CTLR (WHICH IS DENVER), AS THEY USUALLY ARE NOT AS BUSY. OF COURSE, WE THEN PROMPTLY FORGOT! APPROX 2-3 HRS LATER, CTR ASKED WHERE WE WERE GOING, AS THEY SHOWED US OFF COURSE. I IMMEDIATELY EXPLAINED WHAT HAPPENED AND REQUESTED DIRECT DNY. THE CORRECTIVE ACTION IS TO 'FLY YOUR CLRNC' -- NOT WHAT YOU ANTICIPATE YOU WILL BE CLRED, EVEN IF THEY ARE 200 MI AWAY!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.