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Flight crew of B777 on 'tailored' STAR arrival to iad advises the final altitude restr at the last arrival waypoint is in error. Chart says 3000 ft, ATC expects 4000 ft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 602636 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200312 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : aml.vortac |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : pct.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B777 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 3200 |
| ASRS Report | 602636 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Company FAA |
| Primary Problem | Company |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Hyper one arrival and leggo one arrival and prtzl one arrival all show crossing altitude at 'ticon' as 3000 ft. The correct altitude and the one which potomac approach expects is '4000 ft.' ATIS has no comments! FAA has published no NOTAMS! STAR charts are all wrong! Air carrier X software in B777 is wrong!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF B777 ON 'TAILORED' STAR ARR TO IAD ADVISES THE FINAL ALT RESTR AT THE LAST ARR WAYPOINT IS IN ERROR. CHART SAYS 3000 FT, ATC EXPECTS 4000 FT.
Narrative: HYPER ONE ARR AND LEGGO ONE ARR AND PRTZL ONE ARR ALL SHOW XING ALT AT 'TICON' AS 3000 FT. THE CORRECT ALT AND THE ONE WHICH POTOMAC APCH EXPECTS IS '4000 FT.' ATIS HAS NO COMMENTS! FAA HAS PUBLISHED NO NOTAMS! STAR CHARTS ARE ALL WRONG! ACR X SOFTWARE IN B777 IS WRONG!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.