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A B737 was dispatched in non compliance after being deiced with type 4 fluid but not placarded for the speed restr per the airworthiness directive.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 601968 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200312 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : parked ground : takeoff roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 601968 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| ASRS Report | 601969 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical maintenance problem : improper maintenance maintenance problem : improper documentation non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | other other |
| Factors | |
| Maintenance | performance deficiency : logbook entry performance deficiency : non compliance with legal requirements |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Maintenance Human Performance Aircraft Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Maintenance Human Performance |
Narrative:
Dec/fri/03, I was in command of flight from ZZZ to ZZZ1. I had the aircraft deiced at the gate for the flight to ZZZ1, type 4 deice fluid was applied to the aircraft. The first officer and I had a discussion about if MEL 29-77 was needed. I contacted ZZZ operations and asked them to contact ZZZ maintenance control about this issue. I also contacted ZZZ dispatch via ACARS and asked if MEL 29-77 was needed. The reply from dispatch was no MEL required, however I may have had a breakdown in communications with dispatch. A logbook entry had been made for deice with type 4 fluid then changed to (entered in error) based on dispatch's response. I do not recall if MEL 27-99 placard was installed. I did not hear back from maintenance control. The flight was made to ZZZ, nothing abnormal was noted.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737 WAS DISPATCHED IN NON COMPLIANCE AFTER BEING DEICED WITH TYPE 4 FLUID BUT NOT PLACARDED FOR THE SPD RESTR PER THE AIRWORTHINESS DIRECTIVE.
Narrative: DEC/FRI/03, I WAS IN COMMAND OF FLT FROM ZZZ TO ZZZ1. I HAD THE ACFT DEICED AT THE GATE FOR THE FLT TO ZZZ1, TYPE 4 DEICE FLUID WAS APPLIED TO THE ACFT. THE FO AND I HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT IF MEL 29-77 WAS NEEDED. I CONTACTED ZZZ OPS AND ASKED THEM TO CONTACT ZZZ MAINT CTL ABOUT THIS ISSUE. I ALSO CONTACTED ZZZ DISPATCH VIA ACARS AND ASKED IF MEL 29-77 WAS NEEDED. THE REPLY FROM DISPATCH WAS NO MEL REQUIRED, HOWEVER I MAY HAVE HAD A BREAKDOWN IN COMS WITH DISPATCH. A LOGBOOK ENTRY HAD BEEN MADE FOR DEICE WITH TYPE 4 FLUID THEN CHANGED TO (ENTERED IN ERROR) BASED ON DISPATCH'S RESPONSE. I DO NOT RECALL IF MEL 27-99 PLACARD WAS INSTALLED. I DID NOT HEAR BACK FROM MAINT CTL. THE FLT WAS MADE TO ZZZ, NOTHING ABNORMAL WAS NOTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.