B757 departure from sna experienced TCASII RA with traffic at 11500 ft with ZLA.

Attributes
ACN	599558
Time
Date	200311
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : zla.artcc
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl single value : 11500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zla.artcc
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	other
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zla.artcc
Make Model Name	Cessna Aircraft Undifferentiated or Other Model
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : multi engine
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 5000
ASRS Report	599558
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 1400
ASRS Report	599405
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne critical conflict : nmac other anomaly other
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	controller : issued advisory
Miss Distance	horizontal : 0 vertical : 400
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Inter Facility Coordination Failure

Narrative:

On climb out of 11000 ft, got TCASII RA on traffic at 5 NM at 12:30 O'clock position. Traffic got closer with continuous 'climb' RA. Asked center if he had our traffic. He called it as it went right under us and I informed center that he was too close for him to be calling him initially. Asked if he was talking to other aircraft and he said no, he was with socal approach. Center seemed more interested in a jump (parachutist) aircraft at our 9 O'clock position and 5-10 NM, when we were headed right for another aircraft he was not talking to. Supplemental information from acn 599405: it seems to me that if 2 aircraft are at the same place and altitude they should both be talking to the same ATC facility.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B757 DEP FROM SNA EXPERIENCED TCASII RA WITH TFC AT 11500 FT WITH ZLA.

Narrative: ON CLB OUT OF 11000 FT, GOT TCASII RA ON TFC AT 5 NM AT 12:30 O'CLOCK POS. TFC GOT CLOSER WITH CONTINUOUS 'CLB' RA. ASKED CTR IF HE HAD OUR TFC. HE CALLED IT AS IT WENT RIGHT UNDER US AND I INFORMED CTR THAT HE WAS TOO CLOSE FOR HIM TO BE CALLING HIM INITIALLY. ASKED IF HE WAS TALKING TO OTHER ACFT AND HE SAID NO, HE WAS WITH SOCAL APCH. CTR SEEMED MORE INTERESTED IN A JUMP (PARACHUTIST) ACFT AT OUR 9 O'CLOCK POS AND 5-10 NM, WHEN WE WERE HEADED RIGHT FOR ANOTHER ACFT HE WAS NOT TALKING TO. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 599405: IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF 2 ACFT ARE AT THE SAME PLACE AND ALT THEY SHOULD BOTH BE TALKING TO THE SAME ATC FACILITY.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.