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B757-200 crew, on the boach RNAV one SID, flew by waypoint rbell, rather than over it. Even after discussing the problem with the TRACON supervisor, the crew did not know they were supposed to fly over rbell.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 599379 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200311 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : rbell |
| State Reference | NV |
| Altitude | msl single value : 5000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Marginal |
| Light | Dawn |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure sid : boach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : private pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 6100 |
| ASRS Report | 599379 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact none taken : anomaly accepted other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company FAA Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : l30.tracon |
| Chart | sid : boach rnav one |
Narrative:
Course line checked at takeoff position. All appeared correct. During departure, controller asked if point rbell was a flyover or flyby point. We said flyby. He gave us a phone number to call upon landing. It appeared on his radar we were right off course and in a noise area. Upon talking to vegas departure after landing, problem was discussed. Debriefed chief pilot to change the way the flight plan NOTAMS were listed to insure each departure name listed as separate NOTAM, or put header as 'all LNAV departure instructions.' no separation problems on departure.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757-200 CREW, ON THE BOACH RNAV ONE SID, FLEW BY WAYPOINT RBELL, RATHER THAN OVER IT. EVEN AFTER DISCUSSING THE PROB WITH THE TRACON SUPVR, THE CREW DID NOT KNOW THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO FLY OVER RBELL.
Narrative: COURSE LINE CHKED AT TKOF POS. ALL APPEARED CORRECT. DURING DEP, CTLR ASKED IF POINT RBELL WAS A FLYOVER OR FLYBY POINT. WE SAID FLYBY. HE GAVE US A PHONE NUMBER TO CALL UPON LNDG. IT APPEARED ON HIS RADAR WE WERE R OFF COURSE AND IN A NOISE AREA. UPON TALKING TO VEGAS DEP AFTER LNDG, PROB WAS DISCUSSED. DEBRIEFED CHIEF PLT TO CHANGE THE WAY THE FLT PLAN NOTAMS WERE LISTED TO INSURE EACH DEP NAME LISTED AS SEPARATE NOTAM, OR PUT HEADER AS 'ALL LNAV DEP INSTRUCTIONS.' NO SEPARATION PROBS ON DEP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.