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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 598644 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200311 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : aml.vortac |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 4500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : pct.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time total : 210 |
| ASRS Report | 598644 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was flying close to the washington, dc, ADIZ and was calling for a transponder code. I received a transponder code but was not given permission to enter the ADIZ. I was 1/2 NM from the boundary when I asked potomac approach for permission to enter the ADIZ. I was told 'negative, I do not have radar contact, identify.' at this point, the GPS still indicating that I was outside of class B airspace. My altimeter showed that I was at 4450 ft. The controller told me that he had a radar contact (after identify), but I had violated class B airspace. He chewed me out and told me to maintain 4500 ft. I chose not to argue with him and acknowledged receipt of transmission that I had violated airspace. 10 mins later, I heard this controller give somebody else altimeter setting. It was significantly different from my setting. I had listened to jyo AWOS and my settings were consistent with the AWOS. When I landed at jyo, my altimeter reported the altitude of the airport with less than 10 ft error. Contributing factors: I was too close to the class B boundary. I do not believe I violated the airspace. In addition, the potomac approach controller was giving out incorrect altimeter settings, but failed to give me altimeter settings when I first contacted him. This probably led him to believe I was at a higher altitude. This controller was also extremely busy.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 ENTERED WASHINGTON ADIZ WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING CLOSE TO THE WASHINGTON, DC, ADIZ AND WAS CALLING FOR A XPONDER CODE. I RECEIVED A XPONDER CODE BUT WAS NOT GIVEN PERMISSION TO ENTER THE ADIZ. I WAS 1/2 NM FROM THE BOUNDARY WHEN I ASKED POTOMAC APCH FOR PERMISSION TO ENTER THE ADIZ. I WAS TOLD 'NEGATIVE, I DO NOT HAVE RADAR CONTACT, IDENT.' AT THIS POINT, THE GPS STILL INDICATING THAT I WAS OUTSIDE OF CLASS B AIRSPACE. MY ALTIMETER SHOWED THAT I WAS AT 4450 FT. THE CTLR TOLD ME THAT HE HAD A RADAR CONTACT (AFTER IDENT), BUT I HAD VIOLATED CLASS B AIRSPACE. HE CHEWED ME OUT AND TOLD ME TO MAINTAIN 4500 FT. I CHOSE NOT TO ARGUE WITH HIM AND ACKNOWLEDGED RECEIPT OF XMISSION THAT I HAD VIOLATED AIRSPACE. 10 MINS LATER, I HEARD THIS CTLR GIVE SOMEBODY ELSE ALTIMETER SETTING. IT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT FROM MY SETTING. I HAD LISTENED TO JYO AWOS AND MY SETTINGS WERE CONSISTENT WITH THE AWOS. WHEN I LANDED AT JYO, MY ALTIMETER RPTED THE ALT OF THE ARPT WITH LESS THAN 10 FT ERROR. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: I WAS TOO CLOSE TO THE CLASS B BOUNDARY. I DO NOT BELIEVE I VIOLATED THE AIRSPACE. IN ADDITION, THE POTOMAC APCH CTLR WAS GIVING OUT INCORRECT ALTIMETER SETTINGS, BUT FAILED TO GIVE ME ALTIMETER SETTINGS WHEN I FIRST CONTACTED HIM. THIS PROBABLY LED HIM TO BELIEVE I WAS AT A HIGHER ALT. THIS CTLR WAS ALSO EXTREMELY BUSY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.