Orf emj departure expressed concern regarding TCAS TA with unidentified source believed to be a mili...

Attributes
ACN	597350
Time
Date	200310
Day	Thu
Place
Locale Reference	airport : orf.airport
State Reference	VA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 200 agl bound upper : 300
Environment
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : orf.tracon
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Embraer Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	597350
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Airport Chart Or Publication ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	Ambiguous
Air Traffic Incident	Intra Facility Coordination Failure

Narrative:

This has happened to me twice, the latest being this morning. Taking off out of orf on runway 5 around 2-300 ft, we had a TCAS TA just to the north of the airport. Asking orf ATC if they had any aircraft in the area as we had a TA, they said it was most probably a military ship docked that had left its transponder on. It would be great if our orf charts could have an alert about ship transponders, or better yet if the orf ATC people could coordinate with the military to have the ships shut off their transponders when they are docked. As it is, it is quite a thrill to have a TA right after takeoff.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ORF EMJ DEP EXPRESSED CONCERN REGARDING TCAS TA WITH UNIDENTIFIED SOURCE BELIEVED TO BE A MIL SHIP.

Narrative: THIS HAS HAPPENED TO ME TWICE, THE LATEST BEING THIS MORNING. TAKING OFF OUT OF ORF ON RWY 5 AROUND 2-300 FT, WE HAD A TCAS TA JUST TO THE N OF THE ARPT. ASKING ORF ATC IF THEY HAD ANY ACFT IN THE AREA AS WE HAD A TA, THEY SAID IT WAS MOST PROBABLY A MIL SHIP DOCKED THAT HAD LEFT ITS TRANSPONDER ON. IT WOULD BE GREAT IF OUR ORF CHARTS COULD HAVE AN ALERT ABOUT SHIP TRANSPONDERS, OR BETTER YET IF THE ORF ATC PEOPLE COULD COORDINATE WITH THE MIL TO HAVE THE SHIPS SHUT OFF THEIR TRANSPONDERS WHEN THEY ARE DOCKED. AS IT IS, IT IS QUITE A THRILL TO HAVE A TA RIGHT AFTER TKOF.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Orf emj departure expressed concern regarding TCAS TA with unidentified source believed to be a military ship.