 |
37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Port au prince (mteg) center cleared B727 crew to follow arrival procedure which surprised approach controller (mtpp) who expected the aircraft at a higher altitude.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 595536 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200310 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 9600 msl bound upper : 12000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Weather Elements | Thunderstorm |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : mtpp.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | arrival star : kenok 1a |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 700 |
| ASRS Report | 595536 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 8200 flight time type : 1800 |
| ASRS Report | 595542 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : published procedure non adherence other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar/mode c other controllera other controllerb other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure other |
Narrative:
Port au prince center cleared us from present position (30 mi southeast of obn VOR) down to 12000 ft. A couple of mins later, he cleared us for the kenok 1A arrival. We confirmed the clearance. We followed our STAR chart including radials, fixes and stepdown altitudes. When center switched us to approach, we reported our altitude when checking in. The approach controller questioned our descent below 12000 ft. We reiterated our clearance for the arrival from the previous controller. Approach told us to maintain 9000 ft until we were cleared for the ganiv ILS 9 approach. The controllers should be clrer with instruction when they differ from the written STAR.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PORT AU PRINCE (MTEG) CTR CLRED B727 CREW TO FOLLOW ARR PROC WHICH SURPRISED APCH CTLR (MTPP) WHO EXPECTED THE ACFT AT A HIGHER ALT.
Narrative: PORT AU PRINCE CTR CLRED US FROM PRESENT POS (30 MI SE OF OBN VOR) DOWN TO 12000 FT. A COUPLE OF MINS LATER, HE CLRED US FOR THE KENOK 1A ARR. WE CONFIRMED THE CLRNC. WE FOLLOWED OUR STAR CHART INCLUDING RADIALS, FIXES AND STEPDOWN ALTS. WHEN CTR SWITCHED US TO APCH, WE RPTED OUR ALT WHEN CHKING IN. THE APCH CTLR QUESTIONED OUR DSCNT BELOW 12000 FT. WE REITERATED OUR CLRNC FOR THE ARR FROM THE PREVIOUS CTLR. APCH TOLD US TO MAINTAIN 9000 FT UNTIL WE WERE CLRED FOR THE GANIV ILS 9 APCH. THE CTLRS SHOULD BE CLRER WITH INSTRUCTION WHEN THEY DIFFER FROM THE WRITTEN STAR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.