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After receiving IFR clearance by phone and departing on time, an small aircraft pilot had difficulty contacting N90 approach controller.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 592950 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200309 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : sax.vortac |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 10.8 flight time total : 1840 flight time type : 1200 |
| ASRS Report | 592950 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar & radio comm aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : radio other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | aircraft : equipment problem dissipated flight crew : overcame equipment problem other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Aircraft Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Airspace Structure |
Narrative:
I picked up IFR clearance fwn-avp by phone, clearance void time XA43Z. I took off just at XA43. Clearance stated 'when in controled airspace, contact new york departure 127.6.' I tried several times to do so but was nearly to sax before he heard me. (On the way into fwn 127.6 was breaking up badly and I had a difficult time canceling IFR from the air because of his inability to hear me.) controller stated I was '7 mi late,' interping off-time to be contact time. Clearance was: direct sax radar vectors huo direct lhy direct M30, E40, 10 mins, when in controled airspace contact new york at 127.6, squawk XXXX. I had reached 3000 ft climbing at 500 FPM and had been calling for greater than 1 min when I got through.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER RECEIVING IFR CLRNC BY PHONE AND DEPARTING ON TIME, AN SMA PLT HAD DIFFICULTY CONTACTING N90 APCH CTLR.
Narrative: I PICKED UP IFR CLRNC FWN-AVP BY PHONE, CLRNC VOID TIME XA43Z. I TOOK OFF JUST AT XA43. CLRNC STATED 'WHEN IN CTLED AIRSPACE, CONTACT NEW YORK DEP 127.6.' I TRIED SEVERAL TIMES TO DO SO BUT WAS NEARLY TO SAX BEFORE HE HEARD ME. (ON THE WAY INTO FWN 127.6 WAS BREAKING UP BADLY AND I HAD A DIFFICULT TIME CANCELING IFR FROM THE AIR BECAUSE OF HIS INABILITY TO HEAR ME.) CTLR STATED I WAS '7 MI LATE,' INTERPING OFF-TIME TO BE CONTACT TIME. CLRNC WAS: DIRECT SAX RADAR VECTORS HUO DIRECT LHY DIRECT M30, E40, 10 MINS, WHEN IN CTLED AIRSPACE CONTACT NEW YORK AT 127.6, SQUAWK XXXX. I HAD REACHED 3000 FT CLBING AT 500 FPM AND HAD BEEN CALLING FOR GREATER THAN 1 MIN WHEN I GOT THROUGH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.