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Flight crew of light transport on a training flight landing without clearance at osh when they failed to report 2 mi final to tower as directed.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 592520 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200308 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : osh.airport |
| State Reference | WI |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2700 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : osh.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 36 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : roll |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | instruction : instructor observation : company check pilot oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 592520 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 16500 flight time type : 420 |
| ASRS Report | 591817 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other controllerb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | FAA Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was giving training instruction for a pilot's far part 135 check ride. On the localizer, when I asked for an option, the tower replied 'roger.' the tower operator then asked me to report a 2 mi final, which I forgot to do. We then landed. I'm not sure what the 'roger' response meant. The tower knew of our intentions, and there was no traffic conflict. However, I should have made the report of 2 mi out. In the duties of playing copilot in a large aircraft and instructing also, I forgot the report.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF LTT ON A TRAINING FLT LWOC AT OSH WHEN THEY FAILED TO RPT 2 MI FINAL TO TWR AS DIRECTED.
Narrative: I WAS GIVING TRAINING INSTRUCTION FOR A PLT'S FAR PART 135 CHK RIDE. ON THE LOC, WHEN I ASKED FOR AN OPTION, THE TWR REPLIED 'ROGER.' THE TWR OPERATOR THEN ASKED ME TO RPT A 2 MI FINAL, WHICH I FORGOT TO DO. WE THEN LANDED. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE 'ROGER' RESPONSE MEANT. THE TWR KNEW OF OUR INTENTIONS, AND THERE WAS NO TFC CONFLICT. HOWEVER, I SHOULD HAVE MADE THE RPT OF 2 MI OUT. IN THE DUTIES OF PLAYING COPLT IN A LARGE ACFT AND INSTRUCTING ALSO, I FORGOT THE RPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.