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A319 captain is frustrated with taxiway signage at sfo and with the published diagram of the airport.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 591880 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200307 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sfo.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | A319 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 17200 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 591880 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | FAA Airport |
| Primary Problem | Airport |
Narrative:
Taxiing eastbound on taxiway a from about the east concourse the intersections of a, B, F, F1 are not adequately marked with signage. Also the airport diagram does not quite depict the actual taxiway layout and islands there. Very confusing especially in fog/low visibility. I advised ground control there was no sign depicting a turn for F1 (our clearance was a , F1, B to runway 1L). His response was 'it's not my job to make the signs.' so I see a potential area of ATC clearance deviation/runway incursion and ATC won't even take the time to report it to airport operations. Does it take an accident/incident/violation to get someone to actually listen to our suggestions on safety concerns?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A319 CAPT IS FRUSTRATED WITH TXWY SIGNAGE AT SFO AND WITH THE PUBLISHED DIAGRAM OF THE ARPT.
Narrative: TAXIING EBND ON TXWY A FROM ABOUT THE E CONCOURSE THE INTERSECTIONS OF A, B, F, F1 ARE NOT ADEQUATELY MARKED WITH SIGNAGE. ALSO THE ARPT DIAGRAM DOES NOT QUITE DEPICT THE ACTUAL TXWY LAYOUT AND ISLANDS THERE. VERY CONFUSING ESPECIALLY IN FOG/LOW VIS. I ADVISED GROUND CTL THERE WAS NO SIGN DEPICTING A TURN FOR F1 (OUR CLRNC WAS A , F1, B TO RWY 1L). HIS RESPONSE WAS 'IT'S NOT MY JOB TO MAKE THE SIGNS.' SO I SEE A POTENTIAL AREA OF ATC CLRNC DEVIATION/RWY INCURSION AND ATC WON'T EVEN TAKE THE TIME TO RPT IT TO ARPT OPS. DOES IT TAKE AN ACCIDENT/INCIDENT/VIOLATION TO GET SOMEONE TO ACTUALLY LISTEN TO OUR SUGGESTIONS ON SAFETY CONCERNS?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.