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LJ60 flight crew overshoot displaced threshold hold short point on taxiway a taxiing to runway 32 for takeoff. Pilot alleges poor signage and paint markings were cause of error.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 591495 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200308 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : rap.airport |
| State Reference | SD |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Weather Elements | other |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Learjet 60 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi ground : maintenance |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 591495 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway incursion : taxiway non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance Airport |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Airport | markings : rap.airport signage : rap.airport |
Narrative:
Runway 32, first 600 ft of runway is notamed closed. Taxi out of FBO on taxiway a, the new hold short line is 600-1000 ft down the taxiway, away from the approach end of runway 32. Hold short sign is a '32-approach' sign. The hold short paint lines are on top of old lines and hard to see. The old hold short sign is still there about 600 ft further. The old hold short sign is still there about 600 ft further. The old sign is wrapped in a black garbage bag. From this distance, it looks like just the black side of the sign and you would expect to see the face of it when you get closer and turned the corner. This is where you normally expect the hold short of a runway. Nothing in notices to airmen about new and unexpected hold short lines.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LJ60 FLT CREW OVERSHOOT DISPLACED THRESHOLD HOLD SHORT POINT ON TXWY A TAXIING TO RWY 32 FOR TKOF. PLT ALLEGES POOR SIGNAGE AND PAINT MARKINGS WERE CAUSE OF ERROR.
Narrative: RWY 32, FIRST 600 FT OF RWY IS NOTAMED CLOSED. TAXI OUT OF FBO ON TXWY A, THE NEW HOLD SHORT LINE IS 600-1000 FT DOWN THE TXWY, AWAY FROM THE APCH END OF RWY 32. HOLD SHORT SIGN IS A '32-APCH' SIGN. THE HOLD SHORT PAINT LINES ARE ON TOP OF OLD LINES AND HARD TO SEE. THE OLD HOLD SHORT SIGN IS STILL THERE ABOUT 600 FT FURTHER. THE OLD HOLD SHORT SIGN IS STILL THERE ABOUT 600 FT FURTHER. THE OLD SIGN IS WRAPPED IN A BLACK GARBAGE BAG. FROM THIS DISTANCE, IT LOOKS LIKE JUST THE BLACK SIDE OF THE SIGN AND YOU WOULD EXPECT TO SEE THE FACE OF IT WHEN YOU GET CLOSER AND TURNED THE CORNER. THIS IS WHERE YOU NORMALLY EXPECT THE HOLD SHORT OF A RWY. NOTHING IN NOTICES TO AIRMEN ABOUT NEW AND UNEXPECTED HOLD SHORT LINES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.