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During climb and in contact with ZDC, an MD80 refused turns issued by the controller due to level 5 and 6 thunderstorms on the course ATC directed.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 591429 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200308 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : zdc.artcc |
| State Reference | VA |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Weather Elements | Thunderstorm |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc tower : zzz.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 2200 |
| ASRS Report | 591429 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 1600 |
| ASRS Report | 591430 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : wx radar other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Consequence | faa : assigned or threatened penalties |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Weather ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
Shortly after departing, while climbing, we received a clearance to turn left heading 190 degrees. Our response was to continue on a heading of 270 degrees due to level 5 and 6 thunderstorms left of course. ATC responded unable, turn left 190 degrees. Once again we requested present heading. ATC responded turn left 190 degrees. We responded unable due WX. ATC responded 'I am filling out the paperwork now.' based on our judgement, turning into a thunderstorm was not the safest course of action. Also, within this time period SIGMET 87E was active, stating level 4-5-6 thunderstorms.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DURING CLB AND IN CONTACT WITH ZDC, AN MD80 REFUSED TURNS ISSUED BY THE CTLR DUE TO LEVEL 5 AND 6 TSTMS ON THE COURSE ATC DIRECTED.
Narrative: SHORTLY AFTER DEPARTING, WHILE CLBING, WE RECEIVED A CLRNC TO TURN L HDG 190 DEGS. OUR RESPONSE WAS TO CONTINUE ON A HDG OF 270 DEGS DUE TO LEVEL 5 AND 6 TSTMS L OF COURSE. ATC RESPONDED UNABLE, TURN L 190 DEGS. ONCE AGAIN WE REQUESTED PRESENT HDG. ATC RESPONDED TURN L 190 DEGS. WE RESPONDED UNABLE DUE WX. ATC RESPONDED 'I AM FILLING OUT THE PAPERWORK NOW.' BASED ON OUR JUDGEMENT, TURNING INTO A TSTM WAS NOT THE SAFEST COURSE OF ACTION. ALSO, WITHIN THIS TIME PERIOD SIGMET 87E WAS ACTIVE, STATING LEVEL 4-5-6 TSTMS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.