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|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Altitude||msl single value : 2500|
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : cae.tracon|
|Operator||general aviation : personal|
|Make Model Name||PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior|
|Operating Under FAR Part||Part 91|
|Flight Phase||cruise : level|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : private|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 15|
flight time total : 162
flight time type : 107
|Affiliation||government : military|
|Anomaly||airspace violation : entry|
non adherence : published procedure
non adherence : far
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : anomaly accepted|
|Problem Areas||Flight Crew Human Performance|
ATC Human Performance
|Primary Problem||ATC Human Performance|
I was flying from sumter, sc, to columbia metropolitan. Just after takeoff from sumter, I contacted shaw AFB approach, told the controller that I was going to columbia metropolitan, and got flight following. Between shaw class C airspace and columbia class C airspace exists mcentire angs class D airspace. I knew that an aircraft must maintain 2-WAY radio communications with the ATC. I was unsure where 'the ATC facility having jurisdiction over that area' is defined? I assumed (perhaps erroneously) that since I was receiving flight following from the shaw approach controller that I should be ok. If 2-WAY communication with shaw approach was sufficient, then I was certainly ok to enter mcentire airspace. If I needed to talk with mcentire tower, then the shaw approach controller would tell me to contact them. The shaw approach controller did not sound busy at the time. I was flying a straight and level patch directly through mcentire airspace at 2500 ft MSL. After I got in the middle of mcentire class D airspace, shaw approach instructed me 'radar services terminated, squawk VFR, for further flight following suggest you contact columbia approach on 133.4.' I did as he suggested and contacted columbia approach. My concern is that I might not have had the 2-WAY communication required for class D airspace operation. I feel that the FAA needs to somehow (in the FARS or charts or something) make it clrer which ATC's have jurisdiction over which airspace, for it was honestly not clear to me that the shaw approach does not have shared jurisdiction over the mcentire class D airspace. Also, it would be helpful if the controller providing flight following would suggest contacting the controller prior to entry into class D airspace. Then, what about the short period of time between when I quit talking to the shaw approach controller and when I established contact with the columbia approach controller? It doesn't seem like I maintained 2-WAY communication with any controller. I expected a handoff or that shaw approach would maintain 2-WAY communication with me until I exited mcentire airspace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GA PLT DEPARTING SMS QUESTIONS THAT WHILE UNDER SSC TRACON CTL, AND ENRTE TO CAE, HE SHOULD HAVE CHANGED ON HIS OWN VOLITION TO MMT TWR TO VERIFY HE WAS CLRED THROUGH MMT CLASS D, PRIOR TO BEING CHANGED TO CAE TRACON FOR VFR ENRTE FLT ADVISORIES, LEVEL AT 2500 FT MSL.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING FROM SUMTER, SC, TO COLUMBIA METRO. JUST AFTER TKOF FROM SUMTER, I CONTACTED SHAW AFB APCH, TOLD THE CTLR THAT I WAS GOING TO COLUMBIA METRO, AND GOT FLT FOLLOWING. BTWN SHAW CLASS C AIRSPACE AND COLUMBIA CLASS C AIRSPACE EXISTS MCENTIRE ANGS CLASS D AIRSPACE. I KNEW THAT AN ACFT MUST MAINTAIN 2-WAY RADIO COMS WITH THE ATC. I WAS UNSURE WHERE 'THE ATC FACILITY HAVING JURISDICTION OVER THAT AREA' IS DEFINED? I ASSUMED (PERHAPS ERRONEOUSLY) THAT SINCE I WAS RECEIVING FLT FOLLOWING FROM THE SHAW APCH CTLR THAT I SHOULD BE OK. IF 2-WAY COM WITH SHAW APCH WAS SUFFICIENT, THEN I WAS CERTAINLY OK TO ENTER MCENTIRE AIRSPACE. IF I NEEDED TO TALK WITH MCENTIRE TWR, THEN THE SHAW APCH CTLR WOULD TELL ME TO CONTACT THEM. THE SHAW APCH CTLR DID NOT SOUND BUSY AT THE TIME. I WAS FLYING A STRAIGHT AND LEVEL PATCH DIRECTLY THROUGH MCENTIRE AIRSPACE AT 2500 FT MSL. AFTER I GOT IN THE MIDDLE OF MCENTIRE CLASS D AIRSPACE, SHAW APCH INSTRUCTED ME 'RADAR SVCS TERMINATED, SQUAWK VFR, FOR FURTHER FLT FOLLOWING SUGGEST YOU CONTACT COLUMBIA APCH ON 133.4.' I DID AS HE SUGGESTED AND CONTACTED COLUMBIA APCH. MY CONCERN IS THAT I MIGHT NOT HAVE HAD THE 2-WAY COM REQUIRED FOR CLASS D AIRSPACE OP. I FEEL THAT THE FAA NEEDS TO SOMEHOW (IN THE FARS OR CHARTS OR SOMETHING) MAKE IT CLRER WHICH ATC'S HAVE JURISDICTION OVER WHICH AIRSPACE, FOR IT WAS HONESTLY NOT CLR TO ME THAT THE SHAW APCH DOES NOT HAVE SHARED JURISDICTION OVER THE MCENTIRE CLASS D AIRSPACE. ALSO, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF THE CTLR PROVIDING FLT FOLLOWING WOULD SUGGEST CONTACTING THE CTLR PRIOR TO ENTRY INTO CLASS D AIRSPACE. THEN, WHAT ABOUT THE SHORT PERIOD OF TIME BTWN WHEN I QUIT TALKING TO THE SHAW APCH CTLR AND WHEN I ESTABLISHED CONTACT WITH THE COLUMBIA APCH CTLR? IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE I MAINTAINED 2-WAY COM WITH ANY CTLR. I EXPECTED A HDOF OR THAT SHAW APCH WOULD MAINTAIN 2-WAY COM WITH ME UNTIL I EXITED MCENTIRE AIRSPACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.