<< >> NASA ASRS Report 585168, June 2003

C525 flight crew has altitude deviation and conflict with military tanker traffic during departure from ogd.

Attributes
ACN	585168
Time
Date	200306
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	navaid : ogd.vortac
State Reference	UT
Altitude	msl single value : 10000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : s46.tracon tower : ues.tower
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Citationjet, C525/C526
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure : vfr
Flight Plan	VFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tracon : s46.tracon
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Brasilia EMB-120 All Series
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent : approach descent : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6350 flight time type : 150
ASRS Report	585168
Person 2
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : first officer
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllerb
Resolutory Action	controller : issued advisory flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Miss Distance	horizontal : 6000 vertical : 500
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

We had departed ogd runway 7 VFR. Intent was to pick up IFR airborne to expedite departure from ogd. Ogd underlies approach for hif ILS. Tower controller advised to switch to ATC for advisories, which we did. Approach was busy, immediately issued a code (VFR code) and advised on traffic into hill and understood to expedite climb to 9500 ft for traffic. We saw the tanker aircraft and avoided, and continued to climb. Primary concern was the tanker aircraft which I assumed we were climbing for. We were then switched frequencys. We noted another aircraft on our TCASII system and deviated to avoid course. Controller came on the radio and advised we were told to maintain 9500 ft. I remarked that I had understood the advisory to expedite above 9500 ft for traffic. I had an inexperienced pilot in the right seat that frequently rode with me. He was running radios and challenged me on climb. We discussed the altitude assignment, but did not clarify with ATC. Afterwards, I advised him that if the action were to occur again, please question and don't be afraid to challenge me.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: C525 FLT CREW HAS ALTDEV AND CONFLICT WITH MIL TANKER TFC DURING DEP FROM OGD.

Narrative: WE HAD DEPARTED OGD RWY 7 VFR. INTENT WAS TO PICK UP IFR AIRBORNE TO EXPEDITE DEP FROM OGD. OGD UNDERLIES APCH FOR HIF ILS. TWR CTLR ADVISED TO SWITCH TO ATC FOR ADVISORIES, WHICH WE DID. APCH WAS BUSY, IMMEDIATELY ISSUED A CODE (VFR CODE) AND ADVISED ON TFC INTO HILL AND UNDERSTOOD TO EXPEDITE CLB TO 9500 FT FOR TFC. WE SAW THE TANKER ACFT AND AVOIDED, AND CONTINUED TO CLB. PRIMARY CONCERN WAS THE TANKER ACFT WHICH I ASSUMED WE WERE CLBING FOR. WE WERE THEN SWITCHED FREQS. WE NOTED ANOTHER ACFT ON OUR TCASII SYS AND DEVIATED TO AVOID COURSE. CTLR CAME ON THE RADIO AND ADVISED WE WERE TOLD TO MAINTAIN 9500 FT. I REMARKED THAT I HAD UNDERSTOOD THE ADVISORY TO EXPEDITE ABOVE 9500 FT FOR TFC. I HAD AN INEXPERIENCED PLT IN THE R SEAT THAT FREQUENTLY RODE WITH ME. HE WAS RUNNING RADIOS AND CHALLENGED ME ON CLB. WE DISCUSSED THE ALT ASSIGNMENT, BUT DID NOT CLARIFY WITH ATC. AFTERWARDS, I ADVISED HIM THAT IF THE ACTION WERE TO OCCUR AGAIN, PLEASE QUESTION AND DON'T BE AFRAID TO CHALLENGE ME.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.