B717 crossed hold line at lga with A319 landing.

Attributes
ACN	584651
Time
Date	200306
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lga.airport
State Reference	NY
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Weather Elements	Fog Rain
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B717 (Formerly MD-95)
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	other
Flight Phase	ground : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tower : lga.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	A319
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	landing : roll
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 261 flight time total : 12250 flight time type : 7100
ASRS Report	584651
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Events
Anomaly	conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Miss Distance	horizontal : 150
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Operational Deviation

Narrative:

Our aircraft was taxiing from ramp to runway 13. We were holding short of runway 4 (southeast side) on taxiway 'O'. Ground control cleared us to cross runway 4 (active landing runway) with directions after crossing (...'join bb, hold short of taxiway east'). We started moving as we read back (crossing hold short line). After our readback, ground told us to hold short. First officer acknowledged, but we were across hold short markings (ground not told), by 6-8 ft, still well short of runway. Due to busy frequency, could not get notification to ground control until after airbus landed. We notified ground, next aircraft went around, and we crossed. No danger, plenty of clearance. Cause: 1) ground control authorizing, then canceling at airport where haste is normally requested, and not visually checking. 2) flight crew not indicating 'unable' when hold short direction given. Prevention: 1) do not rescind cross authority/authorized for #1 aircraft at hold short. 2) aircrew be aware of position and respond accordingly.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B717 CROSSED HOLD LINE AT LGA WITH A319 LNDG.

Narrative: OUR ACFT WAS TAXIING FROM RAMP TO RWY 13. WE WERE HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 4 (SE SIDE) ON TXWY 'O'. GND CTL CLRED US TO CROSS RWY 4 (ACTIVE LNDG RWY) WITH DIRECTIONS AFTER XING (...'JOIN BB, HOLD SHORT OF TXWY E'). WE STARTED MOVING AS WE READ BACK (XING HOLD SHORT LINE). AFTER OUR READBACK, GND TOLD US TO HOLD SHORT. FO ACKNOWLEDGED, BUT WE WERE ACROSS HOLD SHORT MARKINGS (GND NOT TOLD), BY 6-8 FT, STILL WELL SHORT OF RWY. DUE TO BUSY FREQ, COULD NOT GET NOTIFICATION TO GND CTL UNTIL AFTER AIRBUS LANDED. WE NOTIFIED GND, NEXT ACFT WENT AROUND, AND WE CROSSED. NO DANGER, PLENTY OF CLRNC. CAUSE: 1) GND CTL AUTHORIZING, THEN CANCELING AT ARPT WHERE HASTE IS NORMALLY REQUESTED, AND NOT VISUALLY CHKING. 2) FLT CREW NOT INDICATING 'UNABLE' WHEN HOLD SHORT DIRECTION GIVEN. PREVENTION: 1) DO NOT RESCIND CROSS AUTH FOR #1 ACFT AT HOLD SHORT. 2) AIRCREW BE AWARE OF POS AND RESPOND ACCORDINGLY.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.