<< >> NASA ASRS Report 583739, June 2003

F100 crew was given, and accepted, a late descent clearance from the approach controller. They were unable to make the crossing speed restr.

Attributes
ACN	583739
Time
Date	200306
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	intersection : kagle
State Reference	TX
Altitude	msl single value : 11000
Environment
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : d10.tracon
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Fokker 100
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	arrival star : ukw
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	583739
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	583610
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly
Independent Detector	atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

FL240, 15 NM north of ukw on UKW7 arrival into dfw. ZFW cleared us to cross kagle at 11000 and comply with arrival speeds. We acknowledged and told center it was a late clearance. In an effort to make the altitude restrs, I initiated the descent using vertical speed. Initially, I did not notice the airspeed increasing. Center then handed us over to approach control as we approached kagle on the arrival. Descending through 11500 and decelerating through 285 KTS to meet the 11000 ft and 250 KT kagle restrs, dfw approach asked our airspeed. I replied 285 knots. I made the kagle restrs, but I was above 280 KTS at bambe.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: F100 CREW WAS GIVEN, AND ACCEPTED, A LATE DSCNT CLRNC FROM THE APCH CTLR. THEY WERE UNABLE TO MAKE THE XING SPD RESTR.

Narrative: FL240, 15 NM N OF UKW ON UKW7 ARR INTO DFW. ZFW CLRED US TO CROSS KAGLE AT 11000 AND COMPLY WITH ARR SPDS. WE ACKNOWLEDGED AND TOLD CTR IT WAS A LATE CLRNC. IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE THE ALT RESTRS, I INITIATED THE DSCNT USING VERT SPD. INITIALLY, I DID NOT NOTICE THE AIRSPD INCREASING. CTR THEN HANDED US OVER TO APCH CTL AS WE APCHED KAGLE ON THE ARR. DSNDING THROUGH 11500 AND DECELERATING THROUGH 285 KTS TO MEET THE 11000 FT AND 250 KT KAGLE RESTRS, DFW APCH ASKED OUR AIRSPD. I REPLIED 285 KNOTS. I MADE THE KAGLE RESTRS, BUT I WAS ABOVE 280 KTS AT BAMBE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.