PA34 flight crew has a propeller strike while doing practice lndgs at kzph.

Attributes
ACN	581892
Time
Date	200305
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : zph.airport
State Reference	FL
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : charter
Make Model Name	PA-34-200 Seneca I
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 135
Flight Phase	landing : roll
Person 1
Affiliation	company : charter
Function	instruction : trainee
ASRS Report	581892
Person 2
Affiliation	company : charter
Function	instruction : instructor
Events
Anomaly	aircraft equipment problem : less severe ground encounters other inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other
Independent Detector	other other : maint969
Consequence	other other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Weather Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

I was on a training flight flying from the left seat with my instructor in the right seat. We were practicing takeoffs and lndgs at the zephyrhills, fl airport. After 4 takeoffs and lndgs, we returned to the vdf (fl) airport. Maintenance then noticed that the left propeller had a bent tip on the 2 blades of approximately 1 inch. We were not aware of this indication at anytime during this training session or on which leg it had occurred. Nor did we notice any engine abnormalities or vibrations during this flight. None of the practice lndgs were hard enough to make us do an inspection. The only remedies I could suggest would be to shift the center of gravity more aftward by adding ballast weight in the rear baggage compartment, using less than full fuel tanks for only a 2 hour flight, and by possibly using only 25 degree flaps instead of 40 degree full flaps. All of this would help to keep the nosewheel and propellers on an empty training flight from making ground contact early in the landing.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PA34 FLT CREW HAS A PROP STRIKE WHILE DOING PRACTICE LNDGS AT KZPH.

Narrative: I WAS ON A TRAINING FLT FLYING FROM THE L SEAT WITH MY INSTRUCTOR IN THE R SEAT. WE WERE PRACTICING TKOFS AND LNDGS AT THE ZEPHYRHILLS, FL ARPT. AFTER 4 TKOFS AND LNDGS, WE RETURNED TO THE VDF (FL) ARPT. MAINT THEN NOTICED THAT THE L PROP HAD A BENT TIP ON THE 2 BLADES OF APPROX 1 INCH. WE WERE NOT AWARE OF THIS INDICATION AT ANYTIME DURING THIS TRAINING SESSION OR ON WHICH LEG IT HAD OCCURRED. NOR DID WE NOTICE ANY ENG ABNORMALITIES OR VIBRATIONS DURING THIS FLT. NONE OF THE PRACTICE LNDGS WERE HARD ENOUGH TO MAKE US DO AN INSPECTION. THE ONLY REMEDIES I COULD SUGGEST WOULD BE TO SHIFT THE CTR OF GRAVITY MORE AFTWARD BY ADDING BALLAST WT IN THE REAR BAGGAGE COMPARTMENT, USING LESS THAN FULL FUEL TANKS FOR ONLY A 2 HR FLT, AND BY POSSIBLY USING ONLY 25 DEG FLAPS INSTEAD OF 40 DEG FULL FLAPS. ALL OF THIS WOULD HELP TO KEEP THE NOSEWHEEL AND PROPS ON AN EMPTY TRAINING FLT FROM MAKING GND CONTACT EARLY IN THE LNDG.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.