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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||airport : zzz.airport|
|Altitude||agl single value : 0|
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||MD-80 Super 80|
|Operating Under FAR Part||Part 121|
|Flight Phase||ground : preflight|
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : first officer|
|Anomaly||other anomaly other|
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
other flight crewb
|Resolutory Action||none taken : anomaly accepted|
Flight Crew Human Performance
We were both very aware of how inadequate the current air carrier X differences training is. Specifically, a one-time briefing on systems in isolation in no way prepares you for a real flight that requires integrated use of all of the dissimilar displays and systems. You can come up to speed quickly on the navigation systems, which again are fantastic, via the take-home clearance delivery, but often you can not integrate all the new systems without stopping everything to concentrate on specific tasks. This we did on the ground, parking the brakes and then going heads down, but in flight there is a tendency to find both pilots heads down trying to understand and implement the systems. This is a safety vulnerability. It seems that the standard operation into challenging flight environments such as ZZZ and ZZZ2 is wisely done initially with a check airman. The differences involved in the new systems and displays are at least as challenging as those other instances and might be just as worthy of an initial check airman ride or a sim type loft. The handout, clearance delivery and the once through briefing are not enough. I think if I had an sea turn I could just about figure out this fantastic new md-80, it really is a wonderful upgrade, but good luck to the guy encountering this jet for the first time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD-80 CAPT NOTES THE DIFFICULTY HE IS HAVING WITH AIRPLANES ACQUIRED FROM ANOTHER ACR. HE DOES NOT CONSIDER THE 'DIFFERENCES' TRAINING ADEQUATE.
Narrative: WE WERE BOTH VERY AWARE OF HOW INADEQUATE THE CURRENT ACR X DIFFERENCES TRAINING IS. SPECIFICALLY, A ONE-TIME BRIEFING ON SYSTEMS IN ISOLATION IN NO WAY PREPARES YOU FOR A REAL FLT THAT REQUIRES INTEGRATED USE OF ALL OF THE DISSIMILAR DISPLAYS AND SYSTEMS. YOU CAN COME UP TO SPEED QUICKLY ON THE NAV SYSTEMS, WHICH AGAIN ARE FANTASTIC, VIA THE TAKE-HOME CD, BUT OFTEN YOU CAN NOT INTEGRATE ALL THE NEW SYSTEMS WITHOUT STOPPING EVERYTHING TO CONCENTRATE ON SPECIFIC TASKS. THIS WE DID ON THE GND, PARKING THE BRAKES AND THEN GOING HEADS DOWN, BUT IN FLT THERE IS A TENDENCY TO FIND BOTH PLTS HEADS DOWN TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND IMPLEMENT THE SYSTEMS. THIS IS A SAFETY VULNERABILITY. IT SEEMS THAT THE STANDARD OP INTO CHALLENGING FLT ENVIRONMENTS SUCH AS ZZZ AND ZZZ2 IS WISELY DONE INITIALLY WITH A CHK AIRMAN. THE DIFFERENCES INVOLVED IN THE NEW SYSTEMS AND DISPLAYS ARE AT LEAST AS CHALLENGING AS THOSE OTHER INSTANCES AND MIGHT BE JUST AS WORTHY OF AN INITIAL CHK AIRMAN RIDE OR A SIM TYPE LOFT. THE HANDOUT, CD AND THE ONCE THROUGH BRIEFING ARE NOT ENOUGH. I THINK IF I HAD AN SEA TURN I COULD JUST ABOUT FIGURE OUT THIS FANTASTIC NEW MD-80, IT REALLY IS A WONDERFUL UPGRADE, BUT GOOD LUCK TO THE GUY ENCOUNTERING THIS JET FOR THE FIRST TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.