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Runway incursion as a B737-300 flight crewcrosses the hold short line at taxiway M near runway 25R at lax, ca.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 579545 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200304 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 4800 |
| ASRS Report | 579545 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 6000 |
| ASRS Report | 579547 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance controller : separated traffic flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : rejected takeoff |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Aircraft Airport Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After completing an hgs aiii practice approach to runway 25L at lax, the captain exited the runway at taxiway M. After landing, the tower did not issue the customary hold short runway 25R clearance. Although the captain appeared to be slowing to a stop, I noticed that he was preoccupied with something to his left, and was not looking forward. So, I reminded him that we still needed to hold short, but got no response. When it became clear that he might not stop, I stated 'stop-stop-stop,' and prepared to stop the aircraft on my own. The captain responded by braking, but the aircraft rolled several ft beyond the runway 25R hold line, coming to a stop well short of the runway. Tower cancelled a takeoff clearance to a departing aircraft on runway 25R, and told us to hold short. We were later cleared to cross, and ground gave us a number to call. After the event, the captain explained that his attention was on the hgs/combiner, and did not realize that the line we were approaching was the runway 25R hold line until I stated 'stop.' supplemental 579547: I go back and forth from right to left seat, so I was trying to keep up my hgs currency. After landing, I still had the combiner down for the HUD as I was exiting the runway. Next time after landing, I will put the HUD up unless the WX requires it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RWY INCURSION AS A B737-300 FLT CREWCROSSES THE HOLD SHORT LINE AT TXWY M NEAR RWY 25R AT LAX, CA.
Narrative: AFTER COMPLETING AN HGS AIII PRACTICE APCH TO RWY 25L AT LAX, THE CAPT EXITED THE RWY AT TXWY M. AFTER LNDG, THE TWR DID NOT ISSUE THE CUSTOMARY HOLD SHORT RWY 25R CLRNC. ALTHOUGH THE CAPT APPEARED TO BE SLOWING TO A STOP, I NOTICED THAT HE WAS PREOCCUPIED WITH SOMETHING TO HIS L, AND WAS NOT LOOKING FORWARD. SO, I REMINDED HIM THAT WE STILL NEEDED TO HOLD SHORT, BUT GOT NO RESPONSE. WHEN IT BECAME CLR THAT HE MIGHT NOT STOP, I STATED 'STOP-STOP-STOP,' AND PREPARED TO STOP THE ACFT ON MY OWN. THE CAPT RESPONDED BY BRAKING, BUT THE ACFT ROLLED SEVERAL FT BEYOND THE RWY 25R HOLD LINE, COMING TO A STOP WELL SHORT OF THE RWY. TWR CANCELLED A TKOF CLRNC TO A DEPARTING ACFT ON RWY 25R, AND TOLD US TO HOLD SHORT. WE WERE LATER CLRED TO CROSS, AND GND GAVE US A NUMBER TO CALL. AFTER THE EVENT, THE CAPT EXPLAINED THAT HIS ATTN WAS ON THE HGS/COMBINER, AND DID NOT REALIZE THAT THE LINE WE WERE APCHING WAS THE RWY 25R HOLD LINE UNTIL I STATED 'STOP.' SUPPLEMENTAL 579547: I GO BACK AND FORTH FROM R TO L SEAT, SO I WAS TRYING TO KEEP UP MY HGS CURRENCY. AFTER LNDG, I STILL HAD THE COMBINER DOWN FOR THE HUD AS I WAS EXITING THE RWY. NEXT TIME AFTER LNDG, I WILL PUT THE HUD UP UNLESS THE WX REQUIRES IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.