P31 controller spokesman alleges a P31 airspace deviation into ZJX by an MD80 due to a TCAS maneuver caused by a navy T-34 aerobatic activity.

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Attributes
ACN	579378
Time
Date	200302
Day	Tue
Place
Locale Reference	navaid : nse.vortac
State Reference	FL
Altitude	msl single value : 10000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zjx.artcc tracon : p31.tracon
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tracon : p31.tracon
Operator	other
Make Model Name	Mentor (T-34)
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	other personnel other
Qualification	controller : radar
Experience	controller limited radar : 3 controller non radar : 2 controller radar : 11 controller time certified in position1 : 10
ASRS Report	579378
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Events
Anomaly	airspace violation : entry conflict : airborne critical non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance FAA
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Inter Facility Coordination Failure Operational Deviation
Situations
Airspace Structure	special use : a292.moa

Narrative:

On 2/tue/2003, an MD80 responded to a TCAS resolution advisory 15 miles northeast of NAS north whiting airport, involving an aerobatic T-34, at 10000 ft MSL. In responding to this TCAS RA, the MD80 climbed out of pensacola TRACON's airspace at 10000, and into jacksonville center's airspace at 10500. Over the last several yrs, pensacola's TRACON controller's have made many complaints about the navy conducting aerobatic maneuvers in and around our arrival and departure gate, and V198/241, to no avail. The us navy response to the complaints is that they are operating outside of class C airspace and therefore have no requirement to restrict their activities nor to receive traffic advisories from ATC. My contention is that just because an operation is legal does not mean it is safe, to those conducting the operation, or to the flying public who may also be put at risk.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: P31 CTLR SPOKESMAN ALLEGES A P31 AIRSPACE DEV INTO ZJX BY AN MD80 DUE TO A TCAS MANEUVER CAUSED BY A NAVY T-34 AEROBATIC ACTIVITY.

Narrative: ON 2/TUE/2003, AN MD80 RESPONDED TO A TCAS RESOLUTION ADVISORY 15 MILES NE OF NAS N WHITING ARPT, INVOLVING AN AEROBATIC T-34, AT 10000 FT MSL. IN RESPONDING TO THIS TCAS RA, THE MD80 CLBED OUT OF PENSACOLA TRACON'S AIRSPACE AT 10000, AND INTO JACKSONVILLE CENTER'S AIRSPACE AT 10500. OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YRS, PENSACOLA'S TRACON CTLR'S HAVE MADE MANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE NAVY CONDUCTING AEROBATIC MANEUVERS IN AND AROUND OUR ARR AND DEP GATE, AND V198/241, TO NO AVAIL. THE US NAVY RESPONSE TO THE COMPLAINTS IS THAT THEY ARE OPERATING OUTSIDE OF CLASS C AIRSPACE AND THEREFORE HAVE NO REQUIREMENT TO RESTRICT THEIR ACTIVITIES NOR TO RECEIVE TFC ADVISORIES FROM ATC. MY CONTENTION IS THAT JUST BECAUSE AN OP IS LEGAL DOES NOT MEAN IT IS SAFE, TO THOSE CONDUCTING THE OP, OR TO THE FLYING PUBLIC WHO MAY ALSO BE PUT AT RISK.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.