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B757 experienced near midair collision with small aircraft at 9500 ft on departure from sna. No TCASII warning, no time to attempt avoidance maneuver.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 578763 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200304 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sna.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 9500 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| ASRS Report | 578763 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace none taken : insufficient time |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | Airspace Structure |
Narrative:
During climb out from sna, we were given an unrestr climb and direct to fix bhose. Local altimeter was 30.08 and we were on a heading of approximately 120 degrees. We were not given any TA's and did not have any targets on TCASII. The sun was right in our face, which restr our visibility out the front windscreen. Passing 9500 ft, we spotted a civilian aircraft about 1-2 seconds before it passed by us co-altitude. It passed off our right side by approximately 200 ft. We did not take evasive action because there was not enough time to react. The aircraft was blue/white, high wing, and fixed landing gear -- similar to a C172. We told ATC about it and they said they were not talking to anyone and were only showing a small primary target in the area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 EXPERIENCED NMAC WITH SMA AT 9500 FT ON DEP FROM SNA. NO TCASII WARNING, NO TIME TO ATTEMPT AVOIDANCE MANEUVER.
Narrative: DURING CLBOUT FROM SNA, WE WERE GIVEN AN UNRESTR CLB AND DIRECT TO FIX BHOSE. LCL ALTIMETER WAS 30.08 AND WE WERE ON A HEADING OF APPROX 120 DEGS. WE WERE NOT GIVEN ANY TA'S AND DID NOT HAVE ANY TARGETS ON TCASII. THE SUN WAS RIGHT IN OUR FACE, WHICH RESTR OUR VISIBILITY OUT THE FRONT WINDSCREEN. PASSING 9500 FT, WE SPOTTED A CIVILIAN ACFT ABOUT 1-2 SECONDS BEFORE IT PASSED BY US CO-ALT. IT PASSED OFF OUR R SIDE BY APPROX 200 FT. WE DID NOT TAKE EVASIVE ACTION BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO REACT. THE ACFT WAS BLUE/WHITE, HIGH WING, AND FIXED LNDG GEAR -- SIMILAR TO A C172. WE TOLD ATC ABOUT IT AND THEY SAID THEY WERE NOT TALKING TO ANYONE AND WERE ONLY SHOWING A SMALL PRIMARY TARGET IN THE AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.