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A PA28-141 pilot, landing with a student at roc, could not control his student's reaction to ATC's instruction, causing the aircraft to run off the taxiway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 576363 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200303 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : roc.airport |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | landing : roll |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 1113 flight time type : 690 |
| ASRS Report | 576363 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | excursion : taxiway ground encounters other non adherence : published procedure other anomaly |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : regained aircraft control flight crew : took evasive action none taken : unable |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Training flight with fairly new student. Landed runway 25 roc in first 1/3 of runway. Slowing down, tower said 'next left,' which is taxiway east, which involves a 130 degree turn. I felt tower meant taxiway G2, so told student to go to taxiway G2. He mistook east for taxiway G2. We were going too fast to complete the 130 degree turn. I said 'my plane,' and I pulled the hand brake, and we turned 90 degrees and entered mud about 6 inches. Rescue came and pushed us back 3 ft. No damage to airplane or occupants. I feel it could have been avoided by stressing to the student, no turns faster than a brisk walk when the airplane is on the ground.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PA28-141 PLT, LNDG WITH A STUDENT AT ROC, COULD NOT CTL HIS STUDENT'S REACTION TO ATC'S INSTRUCTION, CAUSING THE ACFT TO RUN OFF THE TXWY.
Narrative: TRAINING FLT WITH FAIRLY NEW STUDENT. LANDED RWY 25 ROC IN FIRST 1/3 OF RWY. SLOWING DOWN, TWR SAID 'NEXT L,' WHICH IS TXWY E, WHICH INVOLVES A 130 DEG TURN. I FELT TWR MEANT TXWY G2, SO TOLD STUDENT TO GO TO TXWY G2. HE MISTOOK E FOR TXWY G2. WE WERE GOING TOO FAST TO COMPLETE THE 130 DEG TURN. I SAID 'MY PLANE,' AND I PULLED THE HAND BRAKE, AND WE TURNED 90 DEGS AND ENTERED MUD ABOUT 6 INCHES. RESCUE CAME AND PUSHED US BACK 3 FT. NO DAMAGE TO AIRPLANE OR OCCUPANTS. I FEEL IT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED BY STRESSING TO THE STUDENT, NO TURNS FASTER THAN A BRISK WALK WHEN THE AIRPLANE IS ON THE GND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.