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ZMA controller not pleased when a C650 crew advise they would be unable to make a crossing 25 to 30 mi away.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 571774 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200301 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : fll.airport |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma.artcc |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Citation III, VI, VII |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 150 |
| ASRS Report | 571774 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
As I was on another frequency, ZMA issued my first officer, the PF, an impossible crossing restr to cross an intersection 25-30 mi away at 5000 ft MSL. The restr would have required a 6000+ FPM descent. When I returned to the frequency and learned of the situation, I immediately informed center we would be unable, he seemed less than pleased, hence, I filled out a NASA form. No traffic conflict occurred. No priority was issued, and we caused no one to deviation from their course.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZMA CTLR NOT PLEASED WHEN A C650 CREW ADVISE THEY WOULD BE UNABLE TO MAKE A XING 25 TO 30 MI AWAY.
Narrative: AS I WAS ON ANOTHER FREQ, ZMA ISSUED MY FO, THE PF, AN IMPOSSIBLE XING RESTR TO CROSS AN INTXN 25-30 MI AWAY AT 5000 FT MSL. THE RESTR WOULD HAVE REQUIRED A 6000+ FPM DSCNT. WHEN I RETURNED TO THE FREQ AND LEARNED OF THE SIT, I IMMEDIATELY INFORMED CTR WE WOULD BE UNABLE, HE SEEMED LESS THAN PLEASED, HENCE, I FILLED OUT A NASA FORM. NO TFC CONFLICT OCCURRED. NO PRIORITY WAS ISSUED, AND WE CAUSED NO ONE TO DEV FROM THEIR COURSE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.