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B737-300 crew was released with insufficient fuel in non compliance with far's requiring actual winds be used for fuel calculation.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 569900 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200301 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mht.airport |
| State Reference | NH |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 569900 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : company policies other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company Weather |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
Dispatch flight release 'remarks' section stated 'ATOG based on 1/2 of flight plan en route winds,' this seemed very confusing to me as I knew winds aloft were approximately 100 KTS. Talked to dispatch about this comment and the strong headwinds. They stated that they needed to use the numbers as we were very close to ATOG. I was able to get an extra 1000 pounds of gas on with their permission using child weights, etc. The extra gas offset the strong headwinds and we landed with planned fuel. This was a new one on me. I hope dispatch can elaborate as to how this calculation actually works.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-300 CREW WAS RELEASED WITH INSUFFICIENT FUEL IN NON COMPLIANCE WITH FAR'S REQUIRING ACTUAL WINDS BE USED FOR FUEL CALCULATION.
Narrative: DISPATCH FLT RELEASE 'REMARKS' SECTION STATED 'ATOG BASED ON 1/2 OF FLT PLAN ENRTE WINDS,' THIS SEEMED VERY CONFUSING TO ME AS I KNEW WINDS ALOFT WERE APPROX 100 KTS. TALKED TO DISPATCH ABOUT THIS COMMENT AND THE STRONG HEADWINDS. THEY STATED THAT THEY NEEDED TO USE THE NUMBERS AS WE WERE VERY CLOSE TO ATOG. I WAS ABLE TO GET AN EXTRA 1000 LBS OF GAS ON WITH THEIR PERMISSION USING CHILD WTS, ETC. THE EXTRA GAS OFFSET THE STRONG HEADWINDS AND WE LANDED WITH PLANNED FUEL. THIS WAS A NEW ONE ON ME. I HOPE DISPATCH CAN ELABORATE AS TO HOW THIS CALCULATION ACTUALLY WORKS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.