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C172 pilot complains about IFR clearance rerte prior to departure 'known icing,' and that 'everybody' knows why that route was questionable.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 568182 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200212 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : phl.airport |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 5000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Weather Elements | Ice |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl.tracon tower : phl.tower tower : mci.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 196 flight time total : 662 flight time type : 654 |
| ASRS Report | 568182 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : clearance delivery |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Weather |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
I filed my IFR flight plan to proceed southeast and away from known icing conditions. (Specifically ttn, leeha, ATR, sby, ccv, orf, fkn.) when the clearance was given, it had been changed to ttn-mxe as filed, which put us dangerously close (as I recalled the airmet) to the icing. After takeoff, we were directed to climb and maintain 5000 ft (1000 ft short of requested), which put the plane in the middle of the icing condition. We iced up (quickly) and had to turn around and drop quickly from 5000-3000 ft, then 2000 ft in IMC. The controller was a detriment to safety -- acting like we were interrupting his day. That controller and the person that processed and changed the route must have been the only 2 people in the northeast that did not understand why everybody was staying south and east. Yes, I could have rejected the route, but every once in a while, I give ATC some credit for being able to see the bigger picture -- my mistake!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 PLT COMPLAINS ABOUT IFR CLRNC RERTE PRIOR TO DEP 'KNOWN ICING,' AND THAT 'EVERYBODY' KNOWS WHY THAT RTE WAS QUESTIONABLE.
Narrative: I FILED MY IFR FLT PLAN TO PROCEED SE AND AWAY FROM KNOWN ICING CONDITIONS. (SPECIFICALLY TTN, LEEHA, ATR, SBY, CCV, ORF, FKN.) WHEN THE CLRNC WAS GIVEN, IT HAD BEEN CHANGED TO TTN-MXE AS FILED, WHICH PUT US DANGEROUSLY CLOSE (AS I RECALLED THE AIRMET) TO THE ICING. AFTER TKOF, WE WERE DIRECTED TO CLB AND MAINTAIN 5000 FT (1000 FT SHORT OF REQUESTED), WHICH PUT THE PLANE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ICING CONDITION. WE ICED UP (QUICKLY) AND HAD TO TURN AROUND AND DROP QUICKLY FROM 5000-3000 FT, THEN 2000 FT IN IMC. THE CTLR WAS A DETRIMENT TO SAFETY -- ACTING LIKE WE WERE INTERRUPTING HIS DAY. THAT CTLR AND THE PERSON THAT PROCESSED AND CHANGED THE RTE MUST HAVE BEEN THE ONLY 2 PEOPLE IN THE NE THAT DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHY EVERYBODY WAS STAYING S AND E. YES, I COULD HAVE REJECTED THE RTE, BUT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, I GIVE ATC SOME CREDIT FOR BEING ABLE TO SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE -- MY MISTAKE!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.