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CL65 crew had a track deviation when they did not insure the FMC listed waypoints were the same as the ATC clearance.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 567648 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200212 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ind.airport |
| State Reference | IN |
| Altitude | msl single value : 23000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival star : tarre |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 3700 flight time type : 2200 |
| ASRS Report | 567648 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While on the tarre 2 arrival to cvg, ZID asked if we had previously been cleared direct to the vhp VOR (part of the tarne arrival). I informed them that we had not and noticed that the FMS was missing several fixes along the arrival. The controller gave us direct brickyard VOR and mentioned we were not the only ones to be having a problem at the arrival. Our clearance from ord to cvg was not the canned' one in the FMS. The clearance was eon direct dnv and the 'tarne 2' arrival. Dnv is part of the arrival, but not the beginning of the west arrival. When I loaded the flight plan. I didn't see a dnv transition stored in the FMS, so I 'assumed' it was direct the next fix. I made a mental note to check it against the commercial arrival chart, but forgot (due in part to a quick turnaround and being distraction with a problem we had on the previous flight).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CL65 CREW HAD A TRACK DEV WHEN THEY DID NOT INSURE THE FMC LISTED WAYPOINTS WERE THE SAME AS THE ATC CLRNC.
Narrative: WHILE ON THE TARRE 2 ARR TO CVG, ZID ASKED IF WE HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN CLRED DIRECT TO THE VHP VOR (PART OF THE TARNE ARR). I INFORMED THEM THAT WE HAD NOT AND NOTICED THAT THE FMS WAS MISSING SEVERAL FIXES ALONG THE ARR. THE CTLR GAVE US DIRECT BRICKYARD VOR AND MENTIONED WE WERE NOT THE ONLY ONES TO BE HAVING A PROB AT THE ARR. OUR CLRNC FROM ORD TO CVG WAS NOT THE CANNED' ONE IN THE FMS. THE CLRNC WAS EON DIRECT DNV AND THE 'TARNE 2' ARR. DNV IS PART OF THE ARR, BUT NOT THE BEGINNING OF THE W ARR. WHEN I LOADED THE FLT PLAN. I DIDN'T SEE A DNV TRANSITION STORED IN THE FMS, SO I 'ASSUMED' IT WAS DIRECT THE NEXT FIX. I MADE A MENTAL NOTE TO CHK IT AGAINST THE COMMERCIAL ARR CHART, BUT FORGOT (DUE IN PART TO A QUICK TURNAROUND AND BEING DISTR WITH A PROB WE HAD ON THE PREVIOUS FLT).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.