Narrative:

I am using the NASA ASRS to report a very dangerous situation which now exists on a continuous basis at the vny airport. Recently, the holding lines at the entrance and exits to the main runway (runway 16R/34L) have been moved further away from the runway and closer to the main taxiway G. This was apparently done to comply with various FAA rules requiring more separation between holding aircraft on txwys and large aircraft landing or making ILS approachs. Aircraft much larger than the airport was designed for, are now routinely operating from this airport, which apparently necessitated this change in the position of the holding lines. The dangerous situation this has caused, is that the holding lines are now at the edge of the main taxiway. There is no place between the runway itself and the main taxiway for a landing aircraft that is departing the runway to stop and either check for other taxiway traffic, or properly perform after landing checks prior to receiving a taxi clearance to parking. In order to be in compliance with the FARS that a departing aircraft exit the runway past the holding lines, we are then blocking the main taxiway and causing a conflict with all other taxiing aircraft. In addition, because of this problem, it is now common for the tower controller to give an instruction during landing such as 'keep it rolling after exiting the runway and contact ground control.' a low time pilot that flies my aircraft was given such an instruction on a night landing with me a few days ago. This is a complex aircraft, and it is essential that after landing checks be performed with the aircraft stopped. Because of this situation, it is only a matter of time before an aircraft that is exiting the runway at high speed becomes involved in a ground accident with another aircraft that is taxiing on taxiway G. In addition, it is almost certain that there will be additional 'gear retraction after landing' accidents as a result of the types of taxi clrncs now being routinely issued to avoid congestion. The situation is due to the abundance of larger aircraft on this field, and there is no room to safely accommodate them in this manner.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: C177 PLT IS UNHAPPY WITH THE SIZE OF ACFT OPERATING INTO VNY AND DOES NOT LIKE THE POS OF THE REPAINTED HOLD SHORT LINES.

Narrative: I AM USING THE NASA ASRS TO RPT A VERY DANGEROUS SIT WHICH NOW EXISTS ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS AT THE VNY ARPT. RECENTLY, THE HOLDING LINES AT THE ENTRANCE AND EXITS TO THE MAIN RWY (RWY 16R/34L) HAVE BEEN MOVED FURTHER AWAY FROM THE RWY AND CLOSER TO THE MAIN TXWY G. THIS WAS APPARENTLY DONE TO COMPLY WITH VARIOUS FAA RULES REQUIRING MORE SEPARATION BTWN HOLDING ACFT ON TXWYS AND LARGE ACFT LNDG OR MAKING ILS APCHS. ACFT MUCH LARGER THAN THE ARPT WAS DESIGNED FOR, ARE NOW ROUTINELY OPERATING FROM THIS ARPT, WHICH APPARENTLY NECESSITATED THIS CHANGE IN THE POS OF THE HOLDING LINES. THE DANGEROUS SIT THIS HAS CAUSED, IS THAT THE HOLDING LINES ARE NOW AT THE EDGE OF THE MAIN TXWY. THERE IS NO PLACE BTWN THE RWY ITSELF AND THE MAIN TXWY FOR A LNDG ACFT THAT IS DEPARTING THE RWY TO STOP AND EITHER CHK FOR OTHER TXWY TFC, OR PROPERLY PERFORM AFTER LNDG CHKS PRIOR TO RECEIVING A TAXI CLRNC TO PARKING. IN ORDER TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FARS THAT A DEPARTING ACFT EXIT THE RWY PAST THE HOLDING LINES, WE ARE THEN BLOCKING THE MAIN TXWY AND CAUSING A CONFLICT WITH ALL OTHER TAXIING ACFT. IN ADDITION, BECAUSE OF THIS PROB, IT IS NOW COMMON FOR THE TWR CTLR TO GIVE AN INSTRUCTION DURING LNDG SUCH AS 'KEEP IT ROLLING AFTER EXITING THE RWY AND CONTACT GND CTL.' A LOW TIME PLT THAT FLIES MY ACFT WAS GIVEN SUCH AN INSTRUCTION ON A NIGHT LNDG WITH ME A FEW DAYS AGO. THIS IS A COMPLEX ACFT, AND IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT AFTER LNDG CHKS BE PERFORMED WITH THE ACFT STOPPED. BECAUSE OF THIS SIT, IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE AN ACFT THAT IS EXITING THE RWY AT HIGH SPD BECOMES INVOLVED IN A GND ACCIDENT WITH ANOTHER ACFT THAT IS TAXIING ON TXWY G. IN ADDITION, IT IS ALMOST CERTAIN THAT THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL 'GEAR RETRACTION AFTER LNDG' ACCIDENTS AS A RESULT OF THE TYPES OF TAXI CLRNCS NOW BEING ROUTINELY ISSUED TO AVOID CONGESTION. THE SIT IS DUE TO THE ABUNDANCE OF LARGER ACFT ON THIS FIELD, AND THERE IS NO ROOM TO SAFELY ACCOMMODATE THEM IN THIS MANNER.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.