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A300 crew departing an first officer to jfk, apparently in a non-radar environment, was issued a restr to climb at 1500 FPM until reaching assigned altitude.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 556082 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200208 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : tncf.tower |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 20000 msl bound upper : 25000 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 556082 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| ASRS Report | 556383 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
ATC clearance: climb at 1500 FPM from FL200 to FL250. Captain requested zulu time or navigation fix for climb restraint. Request denied by ATC. Complied with 1500 FPM clearance anyway, stating to ATC that he believed clearance to be invalid. Captain noticed TCASII traffic at FL210-230 opposite direction and 20 mi west. Captain questioned ATC about this traffic. ATC advised that flight had violated climb at 1500 FPM clearance. ATC asked for captain's name and license number. Captain would not provide ATC with that information.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A300 CREW DEPARTING AN FO TO JFK, APPARENTLY IN A NON-RADAR ENVIRONMENT, WAS ISSUED A RESTR TO CLB AT 1500 FPM UNTIL REACHING ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: ATC CLRNC: CLB AT 1500 FPM FROM FL200 TO FL250. CAPT REQUESTED ZULU TIME OR NAV FIX FOR CLB RESTRAINT. REQUEST DENIED BY ATC. COMPLIED WITH 1500 FPM CLRNC ANYWAY, STATING TO ATC THAT HE BELIEVED CLRNC TO BE INVALID. CAPT NOTICED TCASII TFC AT FL210-230 OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND 20 MI W. CAPT QUESTIONED ATC ABOUT THIS TFC. ATC ADVISED THAT FLT HAD VIOLATED CLB AT 1500 FPM CLRNC. ATC ASKED FOR CAPT'S NAME AND LICENSE NUMBER. CAPT WOULD NOT PROVIDE ATC WITH THAT INFO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.